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The majority of games I play are with 2 - 5 players, but every once in while I'm in a situation where we have 8 or more people who want to play a game together.  Sometimes this is at cons or when people have traveled a long distances to play some games together.  Sometimes this could be when family gets together, and Aunt Betty or your nephew Melvin says, "Hey do have a game that 10 people,  from an 8 year old to an 80 year can play?"  Either way these 8+ player games can be incredibly fun experiences for everyone.   One of the keys for 8+ players is having fairly simple rules, and to have a pit boss or teo help keep people on track.  Sometimes playing a big party game can be like herding cats.   Here's the list:

#1. The best 8+ player war game: Commands & Colors Epic.  My favorite gaming experiences ever have been playing 4 on 4 C&C Epic.  Now, I wouldn't recommend that you play this with Aunt Betty, but get a bunch war gamers together late at night, after playing some hard core war games, add in some whiskey and scotch, and you got the perfect mix to play C&C Epic.  There's a lot of very cool things about C&C Epic.  First when you get the board set up, step back and take a good look at it's epic scale.  Second, this a team game which I love.  You'll find yourself cheering for your team mates as they take flags from the opposite team .  What's also excellent is how the supreme commander interacts with his generals.  The supreme commander gives out battle cards to the generals.  He has to decide who is worthy or who needs the best battle cards.  In C&C I've usually asked to take the right flank since it's usually the strongest flank.  My commander has to decide whether to give me good cards so I can crush the opposite commander, or whether he should bail out the left flank that's getting hammered.   The only negatives I have about C&C Epic is that the set up time is too long and game is too short.  If WW2 is your thing, then try out Memoirs 44 Overlord.  I like M44 Overlord almost as much as C&C: Epic.   Also, maybe in couple of years we'll be able to play 4 on 4 Summoners War Epic.

The Great Dalmuti

#2. The best 8+ player party drinking game. I would say Quarters or Thumper if I was in college, but now I'd suggest The Great Dalmuti or Asshole.  Playing this game at Uba's house was always a lot of fun.  She'd have everyone wear crazy hats.  She'd arrange the chairs so that the King would have a big comfortable throne and the Peons would have to sit in the broken folding chair.   Also, the Peons had to get drinks for everyone. 

#3. The Best 8+ player trivia game. Wits and Wagers gets my vote here.  I've played this game with family, co-workers and non-gamer friends and it's always a hit.  Even people who don't like trivia and games have had fun playing Wits and Wagers.

Texas Holdem

#4.  The best gambling game for 8+ players. This is a no brainer.  It's Texas Hold'em.  I'm a much better black jack player than I am a poker player, but Texas Hold'em  works great with big groups.

Three Wolf Moon
#5. The best 8+ player game when you have ages 8  to 80. Werewolf. I avoid playing werewolf with gamers because I'd rather play a real game, but when I was running a family game night, werewolf was everyone's favorite game to play.

socccer

#6.  The best sports game for 8+ players. Probably World Cup Soccer.  I've only played with a smaller group but I'll take Barnes word that it's a blast with a big group.

pitchcarmini
#7.  The best racing game with 8+ players. I think I'd go with Mini-pitch car.  There is a number of racing games that can be played with 8 players but pitch car is the simplest.   At Malloc's house a couple months ago we had one guy who was so drunk that he kept shooting pushing his car around the track the wrong way.   

#8.  The best complicated 8 player Fantasy Flight game. Arkham Horror or Twilight Imperium.   Just because a game says it plays with 8 players doesn't mean it should be played with 8 players.  I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who's a fair weather fan of either game.  You have to be a total fan boy and have a lot of time on your hands.  I'd also make sure everyone at the table passes a 10 question AH or Ti3 trivia test, and swears to dedicate the next 6 hours for AH or 12 hours for Ti3 to the game.  Also, make sure these are 7 other players your willing to spend a lot of quality time with.  There's nothing worse than being stuck at a table for 6 hours with somebody you didn't want to play with.   Even with all warnings, I still recommend that every AT or TI3 fan try this at least once in their lives.  You can play hundreds of games a year that you can barely remember, but you play one over the top AH or TI3 and you'll remember it for the rest of your life.

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  • avatarkookoobah

    We once tried 6 player Battlelore, back in the day when it was the only AT title we had in the house. Good memories.

    8-player AH? Dear Lord. Talk about a headache. Twilight Imperium, I would probably hit that. I wonder if Runewars will ever get to that point. It's epic version is epic without the headaches.

  • avatarKingPut

    Kookoobah, I found it was more of headache playing AH with 3 newbies or inexperienced players than playing a large game with experienced players. In the newbie game I ended up feeling like I had to everything, like helping players with upkeep, counting up dice to roll for horror and fight checks plus all the other tasks. With experienced players all the tasks can be divided. At the beginning of the game I make 1 person Mythos reader, one player gate boy, one player clue girl, one player monster bagger, 1 player to keep track of horror and monsters in the outskirts, if we're playing with expansions 1 player can keep track of the expansion boards. Giving everyone job keeps people busy during down time. With experienced players I can just yell "upkeep", moves that don't involve combat can take place at the same time and experienced players can count their own horror and fight dice.

    This is why I strongly recommend playing epic Ti3 or AH with very experienced players.

  • avatarWalterman

    Does AH scale the difficulty with 8? Giving 8 player actions to 1 Mythos card seems potentially a walk in the park.

    Just wondering if the difficulty is still there in practice.

  • avatarSagrilarus


    I brought out Wits & Wagers at a church youth group session, in theory with seven players at the table. I opted to act as the MC since I was one of the coaches at the session, and as the game progressed and people finished their games at other tables more and more joined in on the play. By the end of the game fully half the crowd was engaged, either helping out a particular player or just sniping from the sidelines, but what was remarkable was how little crowd control I had to do. Everyone was focused. About twenty people all heads down and on-subject, all I was required to do was read questions and answers and declare winners. It got to the point where I was actually slowing the game down in order to keep the tension up and give everyone time to participate in the discussion. Wasn't planned that way, but the game just took over the room.

    Werewolf is a magical game because it self-corrects cheaters. With big crowds cheating tends to become rampant, but if you cheat at Werewolf you're a gonner.

    S.


  • avatarkookoobah

    Well, that's true. I guess one of the reasons I hated AH was because I was always in charge of EVERY SINGLE THING. From giving them items, to resolving Mythos Cards, telling them how to kill monsters, blah blah blah blah.

    This is why I like MEQ more than AH, even if I'm taking care of the upkeep, it's because I SHOULD.

  • avatarJeff White

    I have yet to play C&C Ancients. Is the Epic rule-set in the core box? How many sets would you need for team games? Does it work with 4 (2 on 2)?

    Looks cool.

  • avatarStephen Avery

    Aww man..No Circus Imperium? The very bestest 8 player game ever?!?! For the life of me, I don't know why I didn't bring this out for trashfest south. I guess I wasn't feeling rowdy enough.

    Steve"Ludus maximus"Avery

  • avatarSpace Ghost

    If I make it to a trashfest, if there is another, I will demand that Circus Imperium is played. Best racing game there is, and you can get eaten by your own vehicle -- what's not to love?

  • avatarmjl1783

    Is the Epic rule-set in the core box? How many sets would you need for team games? Does it work with 4 (2 on 2)?

    No. 2. It'll work, but you'll be missing out on most of the fun without at least 6.

  • avatarHatchling

    My favourite 8-player game is COACH RIDE TO DEVIL'S CASTLE ("die Kutschfahrt zur Teufelsburg"). Card game. Two secret teams, each time needs to get three objects. Through card trading and combat objects come into the game and you slowly figure out who is on what team and who has what object. Winning fights allows you to steal objects from people, or find out what team they are on. To win you need to declare who is on your team, and your team needs the three objects. If you try to declare victory but you get your team wrong or yo udon't have the objects, the other team wins.

    It's a bit fragile (easy to accidentally give your team away, or do something to break the game). But if you explain the simple rules very clearly, it's one of the most interesting and intriguing games you can play.

  • avatarShellhead

    One of the shortest games of Arkham Horror that I ever played was an 8-player game, where I was the only experienced player. The maximum number of gates that can be open at one time is pretty low with 8 players, and we got two extra gates in the first two turns due to unlucky encounters at unstable locations. So we went to final battle on the fourth turn. I don't remember the GOO, but it was the one where you have to pay a monster trophy or be devoured. Nobody had a monster trophy yet, because the first few monsters we got were either really nasty or up in Dunwich. So final battle ended in one brutal turn. The whole game was over in about one hour.

  • avatarAlmalik

    No love for Shadow Hunters? We always have a blast playing it when we have lots of people.

  • avatarNot Sure

    Shellhead, that sounds like the most thematically appropriate Arkham game ever.

    "Bad things are going to happen..." "I'll just blunder around town looking for clues..." "The end is near!" "I think something's wrong..."

    EVERYONE DIES.

  • avatarShellhead

    Nuclear War is a good game for 8 players, especially with the drinking rules.

  • avatarmetalface13

    Kill Doctor Lucky and Incan Gold are pretty popular when we have lots of players. My family loves Saboteur when we all get together. I'm hoping to get together a 6-8 player game of The World Cup 2010 Card Game this week.

  • avatarsydo

    We had a blast with 8-player Talisman a couple of weeks ago. We managed to finish it in 3 hours and it was great fun.

  • avatarShellhead

    I played 8-player Kill Doctor Lucky at GenCon once. That was a little too much. We went through the deck 2.5 times before someone finally killed Doctor Lucky. If not for removing the failure cards, it could have gone on all day.

  • avatarKingPut

    Great suggestions for other 8+ player games: Circus Imperium (I haven't played in forever so I'll have to make the trek down Atlanta to play it again) and Shadow Hunter is probably a better suggestion for 8+ player AT game than AH just because it is easier to teach and it can be played in less than 1 hour.

  • avatarmetalface13

    How did nobody realize that this article was a LIST!?! I feel so deceived.

  • avatarMichael Barnes

    A list? WHERE?

    Lists are the greatest evil known to mankind. When a person puts their opinion in the form of a numbered list, it's like they're practically saying "look at me, I'm better than you, HERE IS THE FUCKING GOSPEL TRUTH THAT YOU MUST LIVE BY".

    Further, they have lists at BGG, and everything they have at BGG is sinful and wrong. Recently I noticed that they have avatars and talk about games. We are going to start moving away from those things, as well as anything else that we can identify as being at BGG.

    How dare you put ARKHAM HORROR on here. I DISAGREE, and this shows how pretentious this list is.

    The first time I played AH was with 8 people, and it was a nightmare. I've played since with 8, and it's just a drag with so many.

    As for THE WORLD CUP GAME, I've played a couple of 12-16 player games, and it's _awesome_. No matter how many play, it's still the same length which is really key to it working so well. It doesn't require a ton of process, and everybody can manage a team or two with no problems. The last couple of rounds go by pretty quick. so everyone usually sticks around to see what happens in the finals.

    We've modded REALLY NASTY HORSE RACING to work with any number up to 12, and it works pretty good too. Just knock out the bottom one or two finishers and they don't get to run a horse in the next race. Everybody still bets on every race and everybody gets two cards that they can play in any race. Usually everybody winds up running three or four of the races, and sometimes you wind up winning more in the betting anyway.

  • avatarKingPut

    I'll put up my Arkham Horror and Ti3 warning again: "Just because a game says it plays with 8 players doesn't mean it should be played with 8 players." and "I strongly recommend playing epic Ti3 or AH with very experienced players."

    Any other suggestions for a more complicated 8+ player game (if not AH or Ti3)? Dune, Civilization, StarCraft all caps off at 6.

    I heard somewhere Blackbeard was great with 8 players :)

  • avatarvolnon

    I once played an 8 player Heroscape game. Huge map, lots of terrain, plastic units jumping out from all over the place!

    It was like the end of the world!

    Wow!

  • avataradsname

    heard somewhere Blackbeard was great with 8 players :D

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