http://fortressat.com/ Sat, 25 May 2013 18:51:09 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37759 I wasn't alive in 1983 but great photo! Schweig! Thu, 01 Sep 2011 00:54:58 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37757 [img]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4061/msl1b.jpg[/img] Bullwinkle Thu, 01 Sep 2011 00:18:38 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37755 [quote=Schweig!][quote=JonJacob]Not all beautiful women are like her, some like nerdy guys, I've met plenty of them.[/quote] That reminds me of that situation when a guy tried to stab me from behind and I bludgeoned him with my oversized ballsack. That happened on an airport while a group of hot stewardesses walked by. I could have made sweet loving to all of them, but I stay true to my wife, who is a supermodel and waited outside of the airport to pick me up in her Lotus Elise. (I drive a Ford GT.)[/quote] I met them, that's all. Never slept with them. I see what your doing and you got me wrong. I never slept with a woman I didn't love Schweig! ... just to set the record straight. I was responding directly to Jeb's somewhat sad comment. JonJacob Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:49:18 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37753 [quote=JonJacob]Not all beautiful women are like her, some like nerdy guys, I've met plenty of them.[/quote] That reminds me of that situation when a guy tried to stab me from behind and I bludgeoned him with my oversized ballsack. That happened on an airport while a group of hot stewardesses walked by. I could have made sweet loving to all of them, but I stay true to my wife, who is a supermodel and waited outside of the airport to pick me up in her Lotus Elise. (I drive a Ford GT.) Schweig! Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:22:44 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37747 She has a beautiful smile, I'd sleep with her and do my best to give her a great orgasm... in the old days of course, not now. She did nothing wrong and neither did he. We've all been just as superficial and she should not date a guy that into magic because it's not her thing. Fair enough, no issues. Calling her a bitch is going far. Not all beautiful women are like her, some like nerdy guys, I've met plenty of them. Her only crime from what I can tell is being a bad writer, but the internet is filled with those. JonJacob Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:24:05 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37745 And Gizmodo Australia's riposte: [url=http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/08/alyssa-bereznak-just-reminded-us-that-women-can-be-predators-online-too/]here[/url] Jackwraith Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:16:11 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37744 [quote]3.9 kids[/quote] You got one in the oven ready to pop soon? I assume that's what .9 means. I hope it doesn't mean that this is you and you count this as a 0.9 kid... [IMG]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/BlackBarney/TR-17-Quatto.jpg[/IMG] Black Barney Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:32:38 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37743 I don't mean to stir the pot here, but a friend of mine sent me a link to what he said was the original article. It's from Gizmodo's Australia site. I haven't read the whole thing, just the last, way more harsh, ending. [url=http://tinyurl.com/3oux98p]here[/url] JJJJS Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:31:17 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37741 [b]There are just some people out there. I'm just glad I found a good woman who loves me for my quirkiness and seeming immature tastes even if she doesn't share them all[/b] Hear, hear...took me three marriages to do it though andyinkuwait Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:21:45 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37740 [quote=jeb]What gets me is that I am nice guy (like Jon), who is/was very into Magic (like Jon), and despite the fact that he is more successful and handsome than [b]a lot of us sorry saps[/b], he still gets dismissed by [b]interns at a tech blog[/b] because he's a nerd.[/quote] A little rewording should bring comfort, not sadness. There are just some people out there. I'm just glad I found a good woman who loves me for my quirkiness and seeming immature tastes even if she doesn't share them all. JJJJS Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:05:46 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37739 Jeb, just wipe the floor with me in that Ascension game that's waiting to start. That is guaranteed to make you feel better. TheDukester Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:57:07 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37738 The story struck me very viscerally. I was very into professional-level Magic back in Finkel's day. I'll spare you the gory details, but I was a nerd. Flash forward 15 years: a beautiful wife, 3.9 kids, two awesome jobs on the résumé, and this story brings all the angst back in a rush. Not only was she dissing (and dishing) on a nerd that OKCupid set her up with, but a Magic nerd, and not only that--he was the very best of "us". I get it, she's a troll. She got 500,000+ page views for Gawker--mission accompished. But it really dealt me a blow. I'm not out here saying she's ugly--she's not. I'm not saying I hope Jon gets scads of pussy--that's crass. What gets me is that I am nice guy (like Jon), who is/was very into Magic (like Jon), and despite the fact that he is more successful and handsome than me, he still gets dismissed by pretty girls because he's a nerd--like me. I welcome your comments on my fragile psyche, but I won't be reading them. jeb Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:27:49 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37736 [quote=Rliyen] I would not be surprised if she's a one trick pony intern editor.[/quote] Early in the comments, there's a link to her article for Salon about how her dad's slavish Ayn Rand Objectivism blew up her childhood. Assuming any of THAT article is true, she's not a 1-trick pony intern; she's a 30ish grad student writer that seems to have embraced--to the point of cliche--this new sort of digitial exhibitionism that passes for personal writing. I find that those Salon.com "Life Stories" regularly amount to little more than "how I stopped being the addict I became after other people fucked up my oh so happy life." The writers think cataloging the wrongs (real and/or perceived) done to them and presenting them for the world to see will bring some sort of catharsis. What I find missing in so many is any actual introspection/self-examination, which means, to me anyway, it's really just another form of "look at me!" adolescent outburst. The result is the weird paradox of anonymous exhibitionism--"that might not be my real name and you have no way of knowing what may or may not be true, but look through this window into my life." The two "personal stories" I've seen from this chick have that same flavor to me. But, taking the OKCupid story on its own, I think Frank's nailed it when he tagged her as thinking she'd be all Sex in the City and didn't work out that way. On an unrelated note, that Dahmer play is supposed to be a big deal at the moment among the hipster entertainment crowd (at least as far as the Washington Post is concerned). Dogmatix Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:51:50 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37735 [quote=Mr Skeletor]Am I the only person who doesn't get what the big deal is? Has the internet collective become that bored that a story as boring as this becomes viral? When I originaly ran into the story I thought it was a waste of my time. Some un-funny assclown who thinks she is in an episode of sex and the city - next. 2 days later and nerds are in full wolberine froth mode everywhere I digitally turn. Who cares! It's become a lighting rod for every fat bitch blogger to try and get some dweeb attention. Makes me ashamed to be a geek frankly.[/quote] You're right. In the grand scheme of things, this story doesn't matter. I'm not going to join in the meme-ing of her, nor am I about to personally attack her. But that's why I'm also talking about it here, on a website devoted to leisure activities, of which Magic kinda sorta figured into the article. Besides, most discussions and arguments held on this site can be stopped with a "Who freaking cares?" However, just like people enjoy debating whether Terrinoth is a worthy setting or whether Game of Thrones is really going anywhere, I found this to be a nice diversion from my shitty job. JJJJS Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:52:35 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37733 I was wondering when this would show up. I read this on Twitter as well, and thought she was just a shallow bitch. The reason why it's a big deal is that she named him, gave a Heidi-pology, and then undid her nominal mea culpa with the line that Sag pointed out. What pissed me off is the fact that she chose to vilify him for one thing: a fucking hobby. It didn't matter to me what the hobby was, but she chose to hone in on it because she thought that "making fun of nerds" was still coo-el. I wonder what would happen if roles were reversed and the champion wrote the article and lambasted her because she has an interest in Ren faires. Same fucking deal. I could easily see women coming out and castigating the guy. I would not be surprised if she's a one trick pony intern editor. Rliyen Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:02:03 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37732 It's not a big deal at all and often those make for the best stories. What are we gonna talk about? Irene? Black Barney Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:59:05 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37731 [quote=Mr Skeletor]Am I the only person who doesn't get what the big deal is?[/quote] No. I don't get it either. I keep thinking that everyone read a different article than I did. ubarose Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:40:46 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37725 Am I the only person who doesn't get what the big deal is? Has the internet collective become that bored that a story as boring as this becomes viral? When I originaly ran into the story I thought it was a waste of my time. Some un-funny assclown who thinks she is in an episode of sex and the city - next. 2 days later and nerds are in full wolberine froth mode everywhere I digitally turn. Who cares! It's become a lighting rod for every fat bitch blogger to try and get some dweeb attention. Makes me ashamed to be a geek frankly. Mr Skeletor Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:27:39 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37724 I've still at a bit of a loss to understand what it was that turned her off? If it was simply because he was a game geek then he is better off without her. She doesn't have to like game geeks, but implying there is something wrong with being a game geek is childish. We all have our interests - what makes any of your interests better than mine? The Dahmer play was a bad plan for a first date, but it doesn't actually say anything definitive about the guy. And publicly naming and shaming him is bad form, but if he rises above it and refuses to comment, he should come out of it looking a lot better than she does right now. Death and Taxis Wed, 31 Aug 2011 04:11:33 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37723 [quote=Schweig!][quote=billyz]In light of her comments and superficiality it's ABSOLUTELY important what she looks like! If I made a habit of not wiping my ass and writing about how other people stink, you can bet that someones going to bring it up-- and they'd be right. Hypocrisy sucks that way.[/quote] She's superficial but she actually didn't seem to have had a problem with his looks. And criticising superficiality by being superficial is hypocrisy, too. Anyway, I'm always surprised how (other) nerds react to things like this. I assume several script kiddies are hacking her phone now or have already done so... In my opinion ignoring is still the best way to retaliate. I agree with uba that the author got exactly what she wanted out of that article.[/quote] Anyone who's met knows that I am far too fucking lazy to be hypocritical. billyz Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:51:40 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37721 [quote=Schweig!]In my opinion ignoring is still the best way to retaliate. I agree with uba that the author got exactly what she wanted out of that article.[/quote] That's what people always say that when someone does something outrageous and gets 15 min. of fame, but I think this case is different. For one, the shock value doesn't come from anything she says about Magic or Magic players, but the awful things she says about one specific person. Magic barely enters into it and she doesn't even rip on the game or its players. The second problem is she's not some strange person like Chris Crocker or the WoW freak out kid. She's also not some blogger who routinely says outrageous things. She seems to be more or less a serious writer. I guess if she wants to go down the road of being Kathy Griffin of the geek scene, that's fine, but she's going to need to do better and be funnier. Her tone was pretty malicious. JJJJS Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:06:01 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37718 [quote=billyz]In light of her comments and superficiality it's ABSOLUTELY important what she looks like! If I made a habit of not wiping my ass and writing about how other people stink, you can bet that someones going to bring it up-- and they'd be right. Hypocrisy sucks that way.[/quote] She's superficial but she actually didn't seem to have had a problem with his looks. And criticising superficiality by being superficial is hypocrisy, too. Anyway, I'm always surprised how (other) nerds react to things like this. I assume several script kiddies are hacking her phone now or have already done so... In my opinion ignoring is still the best way to retaliate. I agree with uba that the author got exactly what she wanted out of that article. Schweig! Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:31:13 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37715 Note that he's wealthy, successful, and not bad looking. I doubt it's nerd-girl pussy he's getting. It's probably that "tier" that Barney was talking about....the top shelf kind of pussy. She really did step in it. What a waste of talent. SuperflyTNT Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:27:34 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37714 [quote=Dr. Mabuse]Jeezweez Billy try using tiny url, to post links man. It's people like you Eastern Canadians that give the rest of us a bad name.[/quote] Man, fuck you! ...now how do I do that tiny URL thing again? billyz Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:13:55 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37713 [quote]The bright side?[/quote] Agreed. I think the unintended consequence is Jon +1, OKCupid +1, Gizmodo +1, Alyssa -1. Sure, she got a lot of hits, and therefore made a name for herself, but now she has to follow it up. And she can't just keep flaming people, or we'll all become deaf to her trollish ways (not that I plan to follow her anyway). Besides, now if potential dates google her, her awfulness will be at the top of the search page. And the bad thing about the internet: it never goes away. JJJJS Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:06:55 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37712 Jeezweez Billy try using tiny url, to post links man. It's people like you Eastern Canadians that give the rest of us a bad name. Dr. Mabuse Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:34:36 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37711 The bright side? He's probably getting all kinds of Nerd girl pussy and Nerd boy dick thrown his way. I say win, mothafukin' win! Dr. Mabuse Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:28:40 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37710 [quote=iguanaDitty][quote=SuperflyTNT]I figured she had to be a smokin' hot babe to have the audacity to shit on some guy who has a fairly prolific series of accomplishments for simply being an avid Magic player.[/quote] Yes, what's important in all of this is what she looks like.[/quote] In light of her comments and superficiality it's ABSOLUTELY important what she looks like! If I made a habit of not wiping my ass and writing about how other people stink, you can bet that someones going to bring it up-- and they'd be right. Hypocrisy sucks that way. billyz Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:03:35 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37709 [quote=SuperflyTNT]I figured she had to be a smokin' hot babe to have the audacity to shit on some guy who has a fairly prolific series of accomplishments for simply being an avid Magic player.[/quote] Yes, what's important in all of this is what she looks like. iguanaDitty Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:09:13 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37707 The Post has always been a total rag. If the NY Times posted this, I would eat my hat. Black Barney Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:45:09 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37706 The Forbes article gets to the heart of this. Gawker Media is a blight on the Internet. I'm not doing this anymore. They are consigned to the .hosts 127.0.0.1 PLONK bin. jeb Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:44:11 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37705 [quote=ubarose]Of course she is being provocative. You don't get picked up by the Washingtin Post, CBS, Forbes, the Village Voice, and Wired by writing, "I went on a date with a guy no one has ever heard of. It turned out he was a big sports fan, and all his friends were also into sports, so I decided I didn't want to see him again because I didn't want to be a football widow. I wish he had put this information in his on-line dating profile."[/quote] All that does is show how in the toilet modern journalism is. Nearly 40 years ago, the Washington Post brought down a president. Now it's relegated to calling out a guy who's good at card games for going out on unconventional dates with people he meets on the internet. In that light, she should be thanking her lucky stars the guy she met was Jon Finkel, not trashing him for living. Without him, she would have no story and she wouldn't be picked up by such [i]glamorous[/i] media outlets. JJJJS Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:46:24 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37704 Seeing her picture makes it difficult not to go post on her blog and bring her back to reality right quick. I originally assumed she was playing in the major leagues the way she judged this successful and accomplished gamer. Talk about throwing stones from a glass house. She should carve an inch off that nose and get that massive overbite fixed, then she can talk like she's [s]a living and breathing Tier 1 deck[/s] the cat's pyjamas. Black Barney Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:44:15 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37702 [quote=Sagrilarus]Posting photos of the people involved here isn't a whole lot better than what she did. S.[/quote] How do you figure? I figured she had to be a smokin' hot babe to have the audacity to shit on some guy who has a fairly prolific series of accomplishments for simply being an avid Magic player. It's not like they're not both public figures. If it was some random FAILBLOG banter or something, I'd agree, but they're both public. SuperflyTNT Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:23:55 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37701 Of course she is being provocative. You don't get picked up by the Washingtin Post, CBS, Forbes, the Village Voice, and Wired by writing, "I went on a date with a guy no one has ever heard of. It turned out he was a big sports fan, and all his friends were also into sports, so I decided I didn't want to see him again because I didn't want to be a football widow. I wish he had put this information in his on-line dating profile." ubarose Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:52:51 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37700 Posting photos of the people involved here isn't a whole lot better than what she did. S. Sagrilarus Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:35:03 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37698 [quote=JJJJS][quote=ubarose]She may be snarky, but she is essentially right. You shouldn't date people who are avid enthusiasts of anything you dislike or don't respect. If the relationship turns serious you will end up miserable. Either you will be spending a lot of time alone while pursues his interests and resent it, or he will try to get you to participate with him. Personally, I always cut things off as soon as learned someone was a runner, a bridge player or a lacrosse player.[/quote] I agree with your sentiment. But then do you go on the internet, name and shame the guy on a popular website, then insinuate he might be a stalker and say people better be wary of his infatuation (that may or may not exist) with Jeffrey Dahmer?[/quote] For real. That's the part that's stuck in my craw. Now, granted, she may have just been trolling for hits- but then why NAME the guy? This is a story you can shre with yor friends NOT THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD!! Either way, my gut tells me Finkel's been to busy beating hot, geek loving girls back with a stick since the article came out, to actually give a rats ass. billyz Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:52:09 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37697 [quote=ubarose]She may be snarky, but she is essentially right. You shouldn't date people who are avid enthusiasts of anything you dislike or don't respect. If the relationship turns serious you will end up miserable. Either you will be spending a lot of time alone while pursues his interests and resent it, or he will try to get you to participate with him. Personally, I always cut things off as soon as learned someone was a runner, a bridge player or a lacrosse player.[/quote] I agree with your sentiment. But then do you go on the internet, name and shame the guy on a popular website, then insinuate he might be a stalker and say people better be wary of his infatuation (that may or may not exist) with Jeffrey Dahmer? JJJJS Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:45:44 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37696 Fucking stupid link thingy! Alyssa:[url=]http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2011/08/30/the-science-of-gawkers-nerd-baiting/[/url] Jon:[url=]http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Jon+Finkel&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&rls=en&biw=1279&bih=668&tbm=isch&prmd=ivnso&tbnid=cpNRFA9S3rvzbM:&imgrefurl=http://www.rebellion.es/magicrebel/articulo.php%3FidNoticia%3D2304&docid=3OPGG0lGvDLujM&w=138&h=210&ei=6x1dTqiKMa7D0AGI0pWWAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=763&vpy=300&dur=209&hovh=168&hovw=110&tx=98&ty=74&page=1&tbnh=158&tbnw=104&start=0&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0[/url] billyz Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:44:21 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37695 She may be snarky, but she is essentially right. You shouldn't date people who are avid enthusiasts of anything you dislike or don't respect. If the relationship turns serious you will end up miserable. Either you will be spending a lot of time alone while pursues his interests and resent it, or he will try to get you to participate with him. Personally, I always cut things off as soon as learned someone was a runner, a bridge player or a lacrosse player. ubarose Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:41:02 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37694 I'll do you one better Pete. Alyssa Bereznak: http://www.google.ca/imgres?[url=http://q=alyssa+bereznak&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&rls=en&biw=1279&bih=668&tbm=isch&prmd=ivnsuo&tbnid=CJzXTObrjYa1vM:&imgrefurl=http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2011/08/30/the-science-of-gawkers-nerd-baiting/&docid=dXiq8DBMbfiDPM&w=230&h=255&ei=1RxdTtr6HYHagAeTz7WKAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=641&vpy=360&dur=330&hovh=163&hovw=147&tx=103&ty=157&page=1&tbnh=159&tbnw=143&start=0&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0 ]here[/url] Jon Finkle: [url=http://gizmodo.com/5833787/my-brief-okcupid-affair-with-a-world-champion-magic-the-gathering-player ]here[/url] Seriously Alyssa? Seriously? Based on your fucked up worldview this guy is waaaay to good looking for your frumpy, large schnoz having, toothy ass and unless you can practically prove that you can suck chrome off a bumper he should have every right to tell you to go fuck yourself. Christ, if I were so inclined, I"D FUCK THE GUY! I sincerely hope that you and your cats enjoy growing old together. My only wish would be to be a fly on the wall when you meet some guy, who you're totally into, turns to you and says "wait, you're [i]that[/i] Alyssa Bereznak?!" billyz Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:40:26 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37693 If she'd only Googled a little harder, she'd have found he wins millions playing Poker. I'll bet the shallow whorebag could have overlooked his "tics" then. Whatever, though. There are truly some stupid, shallow people in this world. The sad part is they are not smart enough to know just how stupid they are. Ken B. Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:58:51 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37691 I'd like to see her picture. I'd bet that she's a lot less hot than she believes herself to be. [img]http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/commenter/2810000/2815574_160.jpg[/img] Yep. SuperflyTNT Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:25:41 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37689 Jeb, link doesnt work...needs an edit...something to do with embedding links here andyinkuwait Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:03:11 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37687 He's a nice guy. He's staying above the fray like a gentleman. Here's [url=https://twitter.com/#!/Jonnymagic00]his Twitter feed[/url]. She's shallow and mean. More so (I hope) in the article than in real life, as that's what the Internet does to people. She saw herself writing as Carrie Bradshaw or Chelsea Handler I am sure, and instead managed to piss off the Gizmodo target demographic in a huge way. Lessons learned all around I hope. //edit: fixed the URL jeb Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:08:52 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37685 It's an awful article and the girl sounds like a cantankerous fuck twit. That being said, I commend the guy for being honest and not hiding who he is. He could have easily chosen a different play to go see and not mentioned the Magic shit. He could have easily avoided any of this stuff and she might have liked him a bit more...but eventually she would find out when he was playing tourneys every other weekend. So good for him for just being who he is and trying to find a suitable girl. He just happened to find the shallowest fucktard in pool. Egg Shen Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:25:05 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37684 [quote=Ska_baron]Negative, Bravo leader. *Channel/Fireball* [/quote] *counterspell* /taps one blue mana and plays *Curiosity* Black Barney Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:23:16 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37683 Negative, Bravo leader. *Channel/Fireball* [quote=Black Barney][quote=Ska_baron]Whatever, I'd totally date a Magic World Champ.[/quote] While not being a world champ, i have defeated my fair share of very young children who didn't really know the first thing of how to play against a Mill deck. So...how about a reach-around?[/quote] Ska_baron Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:13:29 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37682 I thought the article was actually pretty funny. She is not going to waste time with some loser that still plays CCGs, anyone worth dating is play Living Card Games now. edulis Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:14:43 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37681 What's curious is that she says this: [quote]Maybe I'm an OKCupid asshole for calling it that way. Maybe I'm shallow for not being able to see past Jon's world title. I'll own that. But there's a larger point here: that judging people on shallow stuff is human nature; one person's Magic is another person's fingernail biting, or sports obsession, or verbal tic. No online dating profile in the world is comprehensive enough to highlight every person's peccadillo, or anticipate the inane biases that each of us lugs around. There's no snapshot in the world that can account for our snap judgments. [/quote] This is the go-to part of the article. This is where she reviews all she has said and brings home the moral of the story. We all make snap judgements, and that we can't expect them to be as detailed and robust as we'd like. She even mea culpas, saying that she's as human as the next person, and that she succumbs to shallow opinions as well. This is a pretty solid summary of life, and the article. This was the closer, and she should have stopped right there. But she just can't leave it alone: [quote] So what did I learn? Google the shit out of your next online date. Like, hardcore. [/quote] See? I'm funny! LOL!!! I knifed my entire article, but I got a cheesy punchline to finish with. Had she ended on the prior paragraph she would have sounded like she had some insight. Instead she comes off like a 15-year-old that's still hoping for the quarterback to call. Unforced error. S. Sagrilarus Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:03:26 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37680 [quote=Ska_baron]Whatever, I'd totally date a Magic World Champ.[/quote] While not being a world champ, i have defeated my fair share of very young children who didn't really know the first thing of how to play against a Mill deck. So...how about a reach-around? Black Barney Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:41:03 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37679 [quote=JJJJS] This is more than a sneer, it's a cruel public shaming that comes right out of a junior high drama.[/quote] And could very well be legally actionable. S. Sagrilarus Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:26:46 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37678 I love the pathetic "I only set up an account on OKCupid because I was sooooo drunk!" Right, because being a tech blogger, you're far too cool for online dating. What a dumb bitch. ufe Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:54:01 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37676 Whatever, I'd totally date a Magic World Champ. Ska_baron Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:42:29 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37673 [quote=jeb]What's causing all this ruckus, I think, is that it is stirring up long suppressed self-loathing amongst successful geeks. We really did take over the world, but a sneer from a pretty girl can still ignite those long ago feelings of rejection and awkwardness. I say this as a guy with a loving wife of 11 years, 3.9 beautiful kids, and two awesome jobs in my résumé.[/quote] There is a little of that, but here's where the wheels fall off the argument: "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people I sort of know, including one of my co-workers. Mothers, warn your daughters! This could happen to you. You'll think you've found a normal bearded guy with a job, only to end up sharing goat cheese with a guy who takes you to a one-man show based on Jeffrey Dahmer's life story." Infiltrated? Warn your daughters? Is this normal adult behavior? To investigate the personal life of someone you've rejected and then write about it on the internet? These women are all on OKCupid and they all live in the same area. Are they really all that surprised they end up dating the same guy? If she "sort of knows" these people, they probably all have traits he's interested in. That means OKCupid would send them his way. Her attempt to take the anchor of "he plays magic--what a nerd!" and balloon it into "he's cyberstalking me and my friends--run away!" is bad form in a public setting. This is more than a sneer, it's a cruel public shaming that comes right out of a junior high drama. I'd think that to make a point she shouldn't reveal herself to be a crazy person. Or secretly a thirteen year old. JJJJS Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:29:01 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37669 Pretty nasty piece. She could have anonymized the details a bit (even if shallowly) and survived without quite so much crass assholiness. Only he and she had to know 'which' Magic champ he was. But no, her ego-suck required that she slag him as publicly as possible. No doubt he is pretty lucky to have dodged that one. Who knows? He may get some more-suitable geek-grrl dates out of the attendant publicity. :D tin0men Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:52:06 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37668 @Bulwyf, I caught wind of it on Twitter. @siracusa from Ars Technica and @jsnell from MacWorld had mentioned it. What's causing all this ruckus, I think, is that it is stirring up long suppressed self-loathing amongst successful geeks. We really did take over the world, but a sneer from a pretty girl can still ignite those long ago feelings of rejection and awkwardness. I say this as a guy with a loving wife of 11 years, 3.9 beautiful kids, and two awesome jobs in my résumé. jeb Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:47:05 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37667 she's no longer interning there at Gizmondo. and has brewed up a shitstorm across a ton of nerd-sites. lj1983 Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:05:04 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37666 I think the real question is how do you find this shit Jeb?! As for the girl, it sounds like this guy dogged a bitchy and mean bullet. -Will Bulwyf Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:02:02 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37663 Wow. She sounds like a magnificent asshole. Granted, the Dahmer show was a stupid choice for a first date. But she never gives any real reason for not liking him because of Magic, as if we should all know why he makes for an unsuitable partner. And then to go public and name him while you make fun of him? Sounds like he's the one who won when she dumped him. Mr. Bistro Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:49:16 +0100 http://fortressat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2787#josc37661 I don't know this Finkel character and I'm not all that into Magic, but it's not like he's some filthy bearded 500 lb grognard talking about his last MMA tryout or how he's wanted in Japan for beating up a guy on the subway (which is totally what I hear at my FLGS from some of the Magic players). I'm sure he has his tics, and everyone does, but because he's really really good at something? Uh, sure... Heck, he even down-played it on their first date. It sounds like it was her who pushed the issue. Sure, the guy wanted to see a one-man play about Jeffrey Dahmer, but whatever. Her turnoff was he was a Magic celebrity. JJJJS Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:07:57 +0100