FATcast Best of 2011 Special Edition Part 1 Hot

You guys are hysterical! I love Eclipse, I love Summoner Wars! I am very curious about Ascending Empires now, I'll have to check it out. I rather enjoy Catacombs, and PitchCar.

You guys are going to end up running me broke with all the game talk. Good Stuff.

Thanks, Sully. I think Ascending Empires will be a surefire hit with you if you like those other 2 games.

Such vulgar language would not have been tolerated in my day. Although, I must admit, there are few things better than imagining some nice round asses.

Game on True Believers!

S.

Still loving this. MORE!

Follow up on Risk: Legacy - It's awesome. It's a tough call now between that and the D&D games (and Mage Knight which I've also played enough more of to really feel good about it) for game of the year.

DER SHPEICHERSHTADT!

Crap I agreed with 100% of what MattLoter said on this show.

Love: Survive, Ass, Risk: Legacy, Ti3 - Shards and Cocktavian as a guest using the Grinch music, Junta dice, etc.

Average: Yomi, Eclipse and Small World

Saboteur 2 is a nice upgrade from Saboteur. Green Gnomes and Blue Gnomes battle it out with the Saboteur and it plays up to 12 players. A little pricy $15 for a card game expansion but when Elipse (euro space game) is going for over $100, $15 doesn't sound to bad.

Woah...
*cancels download*

Haven't listened to you guys before but never knew you had such crass American accents before. When I read Loter's posts I always have Colin Firth's voice in my head.

In your head you were probably pronouncing Loter in crisp British English with a softer or silent 'r' like thePotter in Harry Potter.

I liked: "less rules and more game". Whoever said that: Precisely.

Last night I was in the middle of a serious and important discussion with my wife when suddenly, out of nowhere, into my head popped the memory of you two shouting "TITS!" and I broken into an inadvertent - and wholly inappropriate - huge grin.

Bastards.

Yep, that's Matt and Josh on their best behavior.

Well we had some listener feedback that all we do is talk about dicks so we made an effort to even things out a bit. Engineer Al really stepped up to the plate with it too, a true team effort!

Next show I'll try and talk in a British accent for you Queen's men. I think Andy will not be pleased haha

Yomi gets rave reviews again. THANK GOD Loter is on the job to set people straight.

S.

Damn! I doubt I'll be able to listen to this until the weekend!

What, two days and no new comments?! Enjoyed it, but not the best you tits have done.

Sagrilarus wrote:
"THANK GOD Loter is on the job to set people straight."
Yes, I'm looking forward to part two too, and his comments on Eclipse.

Great podcast again, guys, but a LOL moment...did Matthew McLoter rag on the F:ATties for picking Merchants and Marauders as their 2011 GOTY, then said Survive! was his GOTY?

'Cause that, like, came out in 2010. *giggle*

I probably misunderstood though. He didn't say "Survive is my game of the year", but "I hope I survive this next beer." Which I've said many times before waking up in a dank alleyway somewhere.

Welcome back, Ken. You've been missed.

I think Matt talked about the year SURVIVE came out. I know the pre-order people (like Matt, me, and everyone here likely) got theirs before the X-mas holiday in 2010, but I am pretty sure it didn't hit stores until after 2011 started.

I added "Tiiiits" to the FAT lexicon. One for the ages.

FTFY

Indeed, I said Survive is questionable for best reprint of 2011 since pre-orders were delivered just before Christmas but the actual street release date was in 2011.

M&M very much came out in 2010. Around the same time as Earth Reborn, which managed to win a bunch of 2010 honors. I intend to tell anyone who claims Mage Knight as 2012 GOTY to eat a bag of Delorean dicks too despite the fact that I would have very seriously considered it for 2011 and didn't get to play it enough in time.

Well as long as they're Deloreandicks, I think Mage Knight is absolutely in the running for 2012 GOTY.

I, personally, think we're done talking about Eclipse. I know I've said all that needs to be said on it, so I'm done. How about just playing it and decide for yourself?

I'm really burnt out on this whole mentality that a game needs to be talked about for years to come in order for certain people to even try it. Fuck that, fuck those people 1,000x over.

I'm just fucking with ya, Loter-man.

I was torn because I knew we were talking about a late release for 2010. But I also remember people talking about how they'd love to play M&M but you couldn't find copies of it anywhere.

We really do need to do these in like April or something. I think I'll do that next year. Wait until March maybe to let those November/December releases get played and the hype to die down so every game gets it chance and also we don't get the "oooh, shiny and new" dominating stuff.

Kinda why I wanted to reward M&M too rather than disqualifying it; it's a game that earned a ton of votes a full year after release. That's pretty damned cool, we should want more games that deserve that type of attention.

Yeah it's a tough call. Biggest issue is that then everyone would get our hot scoops and no one would care about our late ass GotY! Maybe if we were a big deal people would wait excitedly haha

I've now played enough Mage Knight to now say that not only do I like it (was pretty not into it at first), but I like it better than Eclipse. So +1 to that March-April idea, and an alteration to my GOTY...Still Ascending Empires for fun by volume, Mage Knight for fun and something really groundbreaking.

Haha! I win! Suck it Josh Look!

I always felt GotY should be 'awarded' first week in October, with a cut off date of a Sept 1 street date to qualify. Almost nothing gets released in August.

We could make it game of the Federal Budget Year, which always refreshes on October 1st (at least for grant funding, that is).

Game of the Fiscal Year?

Game of the School Year?

A lot of games that are pre-viewed at GenCon hit the stores in Sept, so you run into the same issue of not having enough time to fairly assess them that you have with all the games that hit in Dec.

I suggest doing GotY in September, most people would have finished their summer holidays and it gives a year for the Essen releases to be played. Plus it's allows readers to hunt up anything they like the sound of at Essen.

My favorite comic website always does its "comics of the year" article in April or May. People are impatient idiots for wanting that kind of thing on January 1, especially since game companies tend to push some big games for Christmas. With movies, if a bunch of great movies come out a week before year end, no big deal, you've got time to watch them all, so this whole January 1 practice makes sense. Not so with games, which require a lot of time and effort from multiple people, including friends of the reviewer who aren't under any kind of obligation, in order to properly assess.

Not to mention that, as with the Oscars where all the Oscar-bait is pushed to the end of the year in order to be fresh in people's minds, waiting several months does away with that cult of the new aspect as well. Look at ALL of Barnes' GotYs: Starcraft, BSG, CitOW, Labyrinth, Mage Knight. They were ALL released in the last month or so before the year end, so they were all fresh and he hadn't gotten tired of them yet; whereas games that he was so excited about midway through the year, like Tide of Iron, Yomi, and Middle-Earth Quest, had had time for the newness to wear off and to show their flaws.

So maybe we'll do another GotY episode in April. Josh can make amends for touting Eclipse over Mage Knight!