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08 Feb 2014 22:05 - 08 Feb 2014 22:05 #171578 by Josh Look
Terra Mystica was readily available after the hype died, even made more than a couple Holiday sales on online retailers.

Sorry for coming across as a bit confrontational, but my annual work at the Z-Man booth gives me the urge to go on the defense when necessary.
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09 Feb 2014 07:41 #171584 by stormseeker75
Not confrontational at all. Let's just say that they could have handled initial releases a lot better. It just seems like since it's no longer Zev's baby that they've lost the pulse of the hobby a bit.

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09 Feb 2014 07:56 - 09 Feb 2014 07:57 #171585 by Josh Look
We did sell out of Terra Mystica within 2 minutes. I had this lady who came up to me and her exact words were, "You're sold out of it? This is BULLSHIT! How am I supposed to play it if I can't, I don't know, buy it?" Man, Cult of the New...

I will say that I think Robinson's rarity might be helping it. However, there has been a copy sitting at my LGS for a few weeks now, so I don't think it's quite as bad as Eclipse was two years ago or FFG's handling of X-Wing (which my retail friends tell me is a bonafide nightmare).
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09 Feb 2014 08:56 - 09 Feb 2014 09:01 #171586 by wkover
My kids and I played Prophecy quite a bit 5 or 6 years ago, although always with the 2-artifact win condition to greatly reduce the playing time. (The coop Dragon expansion revived our interest, whenever that was released.) I'll always hate Talisman, so no comparison there.

Nowadays, if I want to adventure and roll dice with the family, I'll just play Pathfinder. At least until we get sick of the different scenarios. If nothing else, Pathfinder is shorter, is fairly easy to set up, and has the cool "develop your character deck between games" mechanic.

Though I'm tempted to return to Prophecy, at least a few times, if the Water expansion is released. I had that on my "to buy" list for years.

My family's natural progression through adventure gaming was:

Return of the Heroes (GREAT for kids)
Descent 1.0 (we'd leave this set out for weeks, since we didn't have a part-eating dog at the time)
Prophecy
Runebound (one kid loves it, which is why I own all things RB; the other doesn't care)
Warcraft: the Adventure Game (a "better" Talisman, to me)
Pathfinder

My wife still loves RotH, but the kids have cooled on it. There's no way that I'd go back to Descent 1.0 again (I should sell all that stuff), and my family strongly prefers Pathfinder over Descent 2.0.

I'd play any of the above, any time, except Descent 1.0. Although I won't play Runebound with more than 3 players, and 2 is preferable. And Warcraft: Adventure probably goes longer than it should.

I also have an ongoing Descent 2.0 campaign (with adults) that I need to get back to.
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09 Feb 2014 10:00 #171587 by DukeofChutney
in the current market i can totally see this bombing. There are a lot of fantasy adventure games now, and there might be even a few more by the time this reprint ships.

Also its interesting seeing whats rare on the other side of the pond. I guess its the euro at Atlantic divide. Games like Robinson Crusoe and Terra Mystica tend to be available for quite a while over here, wheres some AT games, like Franks Battle Beyond Space don't even necessarily make the crossing.

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09 Feb 2014 10:28 #171589 by Josh Look
The one thing I think Prophecy has going for it in the current market is Vlaada's name on it, though even that doesn't always mean anything.

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09 Feb 2014 23:52 #171619 by rocketkiwi

bfkiller wrote:

Josh Look wrote: OK, one game, which is Robinson, which has the sort of [well deserved] wide appeal all across the hobby that is rarely seen.


And Terra Mystica, and I believe there were a couple others.


Palaces of Carrara had an English print run of something like 1000 copies, most of which were sold to European distributors and at a few American cons. As far as I know, it never made it into US distribution. Zev talked about how a reprint is a no-go because HiG has more than enough German copies floating around, so Z-Losofia would have to shoulder the entire cost for a new English print run, which they're not going to do. Thankfully, you can still get it in German and it's pretty language independent.

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