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Great discussion on negative reviews and impartiality.
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SuperflyTNT wrote: I love derailing.
I tried to leave a small comment on negative reviews too... but yeah, I'm guilty. Throw the book at me.
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What I would like to see is more emphasis put on the experience of individual players in each game, and the potentially changing opinion over time. Obviously this is logistically extremely difficult. The best case scenario would like something like this:
- A profile of each player, explaining what they like in games, what are their favorites, what this dislike in others, and what games they just can't bring themselves to play. This can really be helpful, since obviously everyone games for different reasons.
- The group meets regularly to play review games, with each player responsible for submitting some content for a review.
- Players trade off responsibility for the actual reviewer, who records not only their own experiences, but the others in the group.
- If possible, the group plays a few times, preferably over the course of several weeks.
- The designated reviewer tries to faithfully represent the group reaction and reactions of individual players.
- The review would not be scored by the reviewer, but would present an aggregate of player's reactions over the course of the games. Something like the "thumbs-up" system from Ebert, but from the entire group. The only score would be something along the lines of "strongly recommend", "mixed", or "not recommended".
- Final thoughts would ask players whether they would play the game again.
Obviously, this would be difficult, but I think would give you the best reviews. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that post-game conversation you have with your group, where some players bitch, some gush, and others are simply indifferent. To get around the nonsense with review copies of games, sell them off to pay for site maintenance.
Another question I have, is how best should the reviewer separate individual sessions with overall impressions of the game? I've played a hell of a lot of Vampire: The Eternal Struggle, and while probably my favorite game, I definitely have sessions where I loathe it. Admittedly, it has worn on my overall outlook on the game, albeit after a few hundred games.
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As I said in a drive-by comment in that thread, you're not going to find a tasty beer by asking an alcoholic, and that's my view of most people there.
I'm going to steal that. But bear in mind that you're not going to find a tasty beer by asking a teetotaler, either.
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If I ever meet this dude in person, I hope I have bail money. This is why I stopped going to BGG. I really should've stayed away.
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That's 4% of the median US household income. In other words, pretty fucking substantial.
The guy's just trying to obfuscate the fact that I'm right, and that he does videos to get free games.
It's worth a read, it's actually pretty funny the arguments he makes. I love my responses, too, but I'm biased.
www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1149799/are...l-or-am-i-hy/page/13
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