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Re: Wings of War / Wings of Glory Support Group

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02 Jun 2014 16:42 - 02 Jun 2014 16:44 #179587 by VonTush
I liked how the one dude tried to get him on "But is it a boardgame?" And great counter.

Thinking about it, I do think that Wings of War cracked the code in getting board gamers to play miniature games. What I'm interested to see if how successful D&D:Attack Wing is able to translate to ground combat because right now the system largely is restricted to flat terrain. If ground combat works and is able to add terrain successfully without bogging down the system, well I think the prediction is correct that it will end up being one of the more influential games.

It was the first game that successful removed the board and still keep the game orderly (as far as movement, distance and line of sight goes) and appealed to both miniature gamers and board gamers alike.

That is a great point though that WoW/G does maintain a level of realism where Attack Wing and XWing do not.
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02 Jun 2014 16:48 - 02 Jun 2014 16:49 #179588 by VonTush
Sag - I forgot to ask after your post - You mention reference book. What are some you recommend? I'd like to learn more about what I'm flying and the era in general.
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02 Jun 2014 20:48 #179602 by Sagrilarus
The book in the bucket is The Pocket Encyclopedia of World Aircraft in Color: Fighters 1914-19: Attack and Training Aircraft by Munson. Color photos of each aircraft, plus a page or two of detail on their basic parameters, usage during the war, capabilities and foibles. I find it's just right for getting an idea of what you're flying.

I have a used edition that apparently saw heavy use in the Akron Ohio Library System, but it's solid and has a slicked cover on it that is damn near indestructible. It also only cost $2.50, so it was an easy decision.

S.
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28 Jun 2014 18:25 #181315 by Sagrilarus
Got the chance to crack open my three new Wings of Glory game mats today and the looked killer on the table. When we were done I rolled all three plus my old WofW game mat together and it isn't as big or cumbersome as I expected. I can carry it under my arm like a shotgun on a cold day and still have my hand free. The boxes will go. They're pretty, but their shape makes them completely impractical for anything.

S.

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30 Jun 2014 09:28 #181349 by Sagrilarus
By the way, Ares has announced new planes, and it appears they've hit the stores. Cool Stuff Inc has a solid display of what's available -- www.coolstuffinc.com/main_search.php?pa=...ings+of+Glory&page=2

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24 Jul 2014 12:52 #182890 by Sagrilarus
This Saturday is due to be another mega-WofG game session with the youth education group. I'm hoping for 20+ so we can really get some nice photos taken for bragging rights.

S.
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26 Jul 2014 19:17 #183071 by Sagrilarus
Alas, only 12 players today, which is par for the course during the summer. Tim had some prime opportunities for photos though, especially on the bombing run scenario where three bombers had to turn in one corner of the play area after dropping their bombs. Six fighters assaulting three bombers with three escorts made for a serious pile of planes trying to occupy the same space at the same time.

Two big long games with a lot of scrums in the mix.

S.

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26 Jul 2014 22:27 #183082 by VonTush
Looking forward to some photos!

I stopped into Half Price Books here in town and I still haven't had any luck with that Pocket Encyclopedia so I'm going to have to hunt online.

But I did come out with Dog-Fight: Arial Tactics of the Aces of World War I and Aircraft versus Aircraft: The Illustrated Story of Fighter Pilot Combat from 1914 to the Present Day both by Norman Franks and for less than $10.
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28 Jul 2014 13:31 #183228 by Sagrilarus
By the way, for the record -- Flying an Italian Hanriot for 45 moves, took eight damage cards, seven of the eight were zeros, the last was a one. Halfway through I laid them face up on the table and started crowing about how my fifteen foot white scarf wasn't even dirty yet.

After that the conversation oddly turned to cup-holders in World War I aircraft, and what each country's planes would have in them. As the lone Italian plane I at first declared espresso outbound and cappuccino home, but the other adult in the room was of the opinion that perhaps a guinea red would be a more likely choice. It's cold up there so I'm thinking a hot beverage would likely be the best choice.

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09 Oct 2014 11:27 #188356 by VonTush
CoolStuffInc is having a sale...Which means the newest series (Series 5) is now inbound to my house. The entire series of 12 planes shipped for less than a C-Note.

Killer price on the Bombers as well...$16.99 (MSRP of $34.99). I might end up going back for a pair of those before the sale is over.

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09 Oct 2014 13:19 #188367 by Sagrilarus
The bomber prices are about the best I've seen them. I've seen better on the fighters.

S.

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09 Oct 2014 13:31 #188369 by VonTush
Keep me posted if you see them again...I'm still looking for some out of Series 3.
The two-seaters have a MSRP of $19.90, so $8.99 is hard to beat.
The MSRP also went up by a buck to $14.90 for the newer single seat planes with the last wave.

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30 Oct 2014 21:42 #189617 by Sagrilarus
Cross-posting this from the What Games Are You Buying thread so the true believers can find the link to this episode of NOVA on the aircraft of World War I --

VonTush wrote:

Sagrilarus wrote: Years ago we played SFB but "organized play" meant everybody showing up and building a scenario that was technically interesting and challenging for all involved.


Months (over a year perhaps) when there was that TrashDome XWing vs Attack Wing vs WoW/G I ended up with a vote for WoW/G...And thinking about that a year later I still stand by that vote because that's the spirit that is captured with the game. I think not having points, not trying to quantify the quality of something by assigning it a point value has made it the better game overall. And I say that while admitting that it is my least played game of that group by a country mile.

Just grab a few planes and slug it out, whatever happens, happens. Of course though the better game doesn't always equate to better sales.

Oh and speaking of WoW/G...I just heard that NOVA aired "First Air War" last night and I believe my DVR caught it, so I know what I'm doing tonight!

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/first-air-war.html

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31 Oct 2014 10:03 #189638 by VonTush
Watched the NOVA show last night and it was a good overview of things. The focus was on this group in New Zealand who builds replicas from scratch from original blueprints. Seeing full HD color images of these planes in various stages of construction and performing, rather than grainy black and white photos or movies, was really a joy to watch.

For me being able to watch these guys fly these planes, seeing the engine oil splatter onto windshields and goggles, watch as they struggle to take areal photos, attempt to shoot opposing pilots and observers with rifles...I've read about all that, but I'm very much a visual person so being able to see what they were up against just gives me more appreciation for these Knights of the Air.

My gripe is I wish they would have gone on for a second hour. The last 1/3 it seemed like they just had to compress and condense to fit into the allotted time. And they didn't even touch on the tri-planes.

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31 Oct 2014 10:08 #189639 by Mr. White
Isn't Peter Jackson real big into WWI dog fighting? Is he part of that group?

Did y'all catch that Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickenson staged a WWI dogfight prior to a show last summer? Pretty cool.

www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/27637906

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