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18 Jun 2014 06:06 - 18 Jun 2014 07:33 #180723 by Bullwinkle
EDIT: Nothing to see here, move along.
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18 Jun 2014 09:59 #180729 by Gregarius

Mad Dog wrote:

Bull Nakano wrote: I don't think mechanics can inherently be Euro/AT/German/whatever.


Design philosophy might be a better term than mechanic. I don't really care though. These topics have been analyzed non-stop for the past decade on BGG. The truth is Euro, AT, and German games are just labels with no real meaning. Since everyone in the hobby has different definitions of them and because nobody outside the hobby gives a shit.

You forgot to mention "theme."

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18 Jun 2014 10:30 #180737 by Stonecutter
Apropos of very little, but I'm constantly amused that Italy, France and the UK seem to turn out more pure AT games than the United States.

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18 Jun 2014 15:10 #180770 by dragonstout

Shellhead wrote: The pictures are saying some things that are not explicitly mentioned in the article. The only person clearly having fun is the girl in the first Ameritrash picture. The people playing the German Family Game don't look especially engaged or entertained. The guys in the EuroGame picture are completely disengaged from each other and are all lost in solitary thought. They look like they are at a meeting at work and just received a complex report.


"Fun" is not the same as "hootin' and hollerin'", or even "smiling". I have a lot of fun playing Chess, or playing competitive Magic, despite not smiling very often. Getting completely lost in the flow of a game, completely focused on it and forgetting everything about the rest of the world: that is fun in and of itself. That's the kind of fun a Eurogame is usually shooting for, I think. How much do you smile when playing Dark Souls? How much do you smile during a really scary horror movie? Not much, and to an outside observer in both cases it might look like you're more upset than anything else. But they're both fun because you intensely lose yourself into the game/film.
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18 Jun 2014 18:24 #180786 by Shellhead
Seems like those Eurogamers would be better off with solitaire games. They don't seem to welcome any social interaction, and their games don't require it.

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18 Jun 2014 21:59 #180789 by Bull Nakano
Solitaire games rarely offer the experience of a living, adaptable opponent. Much less three of them. Out preforming a system and out preforming other players are two different things.

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18 Jun 2014 23:59 #180796 by Shellhead
Actually, people having fun generally do laugh and smile and talk to each other. Silent intense concentration doesn't look like fun, because it isn't actually fun, not by any reasonable definition.

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19 Jun 2014 02:24 - 19 Jun 2014 02:26 #180799 by Erik Twice

Shellhead wrote: Silent intense concentration doesn't look like fun, because it isn't actually fun, not by any reasonable definition.

You'll have to take it to Mr Webster then!

Really, it's a silly semantic debate and Dragonstout is right that you don't need to laugh and smile to have fun, that's just a reduction of meaning. And hey, is there anything less fun than telling people they aren't actually having it?
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19 Jun 2014 11:02 #180809 by VonTush
Shellhead is our resident Euro-Hater...So, this is kind of his thing.
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19 Jun 2014 11:07 #180810 by Michael Barnes
Eh, he's still sore over them changing the Jyhad cardbacks. He's just lashing out.

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