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Gen Con X-wing

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18 Aug 2014 14:34 #185271 by VonTush
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ST:AW do have some varying firearcs. But the only one that they have that hasn't shown up is the 180 to the front.

But all the different arcs are much more common in ST:AW than XWing.

I don't think XWing does it as much because it is more of a fighter scale where ST has larger ships with what would in effect be broadsides. My guess at least.

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18 Aug 2014 17:59 #185289 by Hex Sinister
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I was thinking that making some firing arcs slightly narrower/wider would be a good balancing tool. But if they haven't adopted it by now it doesn't look promising.

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18 Aug 2014 21:02 #185310 by Stonecutter
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Hex Sinister wrote:

SebastianBludd wrote: It's a little disappointing to read that it's better to have multiples of the IG-2000. I don't know if I want 3-4 of them so if it's not worth getting only one than I might pass that one by.


This one is sketchy. It looks the same size as the other ships so why is it on a large base?

Check out the prices:

IG-2000:. $29.95 (!)
StarViper: $19.95
M3-A:...... $14.95
Most Wanted: $39.95

Yeah, I dunno about that IG-2000... I think X-Wing prices have been fair and reasonable but this one is questionable. EDIT: Ok, I watched a different video and it looks a bit larger than I first thought. Still doesn't look like thirty bucks size.


All the other large ships (large, not "huge" to use their parlance) have been $29.99. I think the Deceimator is actually 39 or 49 retail, so I don't think it's too out of line, especially if you get more scenario components, which have been part of all of the "large" boxes.

What gets me is why the StarViper is 20, that's what's breaking precedent.

Hex Sinister wrote: That would be really cool.

Something I would have liked to ask those guys is why they never bother to fiddle with the firing arcs. Doesn't ST:AW do this?


I think you start doing that and you really break what the game is about. They talk about it in that team covenant video but X-wing is very much about who pilots better and that means setting up shots and avoiding your opponents shots.

As for making them smaller, that would be such a huge nerf I can't even imagine what kind of power you'd have to give a ship to make up for it. Again, you'd be talking about things that completely change the way the game is played, and probably not for the better.

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18 Aug 2014 23:16 #185320 by charlest
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The Star Viper is $20 because it's a bit more plastic/bigger than the typical small ships. It's X-shaped barbs/wings have a pretty big footprint.

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18 Aug 2014 23:24 #185321 by Gary Sax
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Jackwraith wrote: Good interview with the X-Wing designers from Team Convenant:



Lot of detail on Scum and Villainy, dealing with the problems of the A-Wing and TIE Advanced, their opinion of the metagame, blocking,


This was a great interview. The design side of FFG is not a group of cold, calculating revenue maximizers.
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19 Aug 2014 04:51 #185331 by Hex Sinister
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Stonecutter wrote: As for making them smaller, that would be such a huge nerf I can't even imagine what kind of power you'd have to give a ship to make up for it. Again, you'd be talking about things that completely change the way the game is played, and probably not for the better.

I dunno, do you really think shaving 10-15 degrees off the front arc would change things that much? I'm not suggesting anything drastic. Doing this would let them shave off some point cost or maybe fight off power creep. Bah, you're probably right though. I just like wierd variety.

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