Did any US fatties back Shadows of Brimstone?

I'm looking for a backer that would be willing to (if allowed) add an outlaw pledge to their pledge. We can talk specifics, but I'd really appreciate this.

I would be interested in piggybacking on someone as well.

I backed SoB and wouldn't mind letting someone piggyback as long as it's not a pain in the ass. Someone pays me for what they're getting and I ship it once it arrives, pretty much?

It looks like charlest is relatively close to me (I'm in Des Moines), so shipping wouldn't be too bad to St. Louis. I might even be able to ship it more cheaply via my company's regional shipping service.

Thanks Bludd, could you top this when the pledge manager goes live and let us know what the details would be (like if it's even possible)?

I had to decide between Brimstone and Journey: Wrath of Demons.

I chose Journey, partly because I knew I could always get the Brimstone core sets for around $50 a piece during a daily deal. let's hope I don't regret it.

SebastianBludd wrote: I backed SoB and wouldn't mind letting someone piggyback as long as it's not a pain in the ass. Someone pays me for what they're getting and I ship it once it arrives, pretty much?

Yes, the issue is if they allow you to add extra Outlaw Pledges (the $150 pledge for both sets with stretch goals). Usually campaigns let you do this but it's not gauranteed. I'm mainly interested in getting the stretch goals.

Sometimes company's will let late backers get in by emailing them and paying via paypal, I plan on doing that instead if possible but no one knows if they will do that yet.

If they let people add to pledges or get in as late pledges I'd be interested in hearing. Now that I'm seeing more about the game I'm liking what I'm seeing.

They still haven't rolled out the pledge manager so it's increasingly looking like Oct. or later for the first KS backers to start receiving their core games. FFP has mentioned that they'll be losing money on shipping for the Mine Cart level so I wouldn't be surprised to see add-on prices for everything go up, especially if they're anticipating a lot of piggy-back pledges. I'll post details as soon as I hear something official.

VonTush wrote: If they let people add to pledges or get in as late pledges I'd be interested in hearing. Now that I'm seeing more about the game I'm liking what I'm seeing.

I was hooked as soon as it became glaringly obvious that it's an updated and refined version of Warhammer Quest - a game I've long coveted while realizing it's too flawed for me to justify spending nearly $300 for a vintage copy. The fact that it has a wild west horror setting and character advancement for campaign play sealed it for me.

I fondled both of them at Gen Con but just couldn't pull the trigger. But the more I hear I regret that move. Marco's video review mentions rest and resupply in town at different locations and even that looks cool and over the top.

I unfortunately didn't notice that parallel until just recently. And I've always thought WHQ was a bit overrated, but the differences I'm seeing here have me very interested.

I'm surprised to hear that they haven't done the pledge manager yet. I always though the pledge manager was so they knew what they needed to order from the factory. And didn't they have copies for pickup at GenCon?

Brewmiester wrote:

I fondled both of them at Gen Con but just couldn't pull the trigger. But the more I hear I regret that move. Marco's video review mentions rest and resupply in town at different locations and even that looks cool and over the top.

I couldn't either. $100 didn't seem all that horrible for the base game, but Legend of Drizzt is on my shelf. It doesn't get played enough as is, without another dungeon crawl competing for attention.

VonTush wrote: ... And didn't they have copies for pickup at GenCon?

That's the story I heard. I was there early Sunday and I saw 5 or so of each base set.

I got an email from FFP tonight.

Here are the salient points:

-The pledge manager will go live "later this week."

- The extra set of passages and rooms $140K stretch goal has been dropped and replaced by "Frontier Bandit" enemies. They said: At the time, we thought that it might be interesting to have extras for players to make pre-fixed mine boards. As the game developed more, that stretch goal became less interesting and not very useful... So, we decided to drop the useless extra passages and standard rooms and replace them with a brand new set of Frontier Bandit enemies!

- We also added some new items to the Pledge Manager, including a few of the items that were close, but not quite unlocked by the end of the Kickstarter. There are even a few brand new items that were developed after the close of the Kickstarter!

- Wave 1 Shipping should begin as early as mid-late next week!!! This will include backers from the US and everywhere in the world except the EU.

There were no details regarding piggybacking so I'll check back in as soon as the pledge manager goes live and I have a chance to figure out what's going to be possible.

charlest wrote: Sometimes company's will let late backers get in by emailing them and paying via paypal, I plan on doing that instead if possible but no one knows if they will do that yet.

According to this thread, there will be no "late access" to the pledge manager, so now it appears that piggybacking is the only hope for someone wanting an Outlaw pledge.

Pre-orders for SoB are also up on FFP's website, but still no pledge manager.

The pledge manager is live and right now I'm just awaiting my email so I can finalize. They're allowing piggybacking, but only one per pledge and you can't add a pledge more expensive than your initial pledge. What that means is that I can piggyback one pledge and it can only be Outlaw level, not Mine Cart.

They're also offering a "Wave 1.5" shipping option in the Outlaw level:

One of the Add-On items that has been included in the Pledge Manager is an Extra Wave of Shipping. This is an optional cost that covers shipping (still subsidized by us – shipping charges have gone through the roof recently) for an extra Wave 1.5 to be sent to those Backers that select it, that will include everything that is ready up to that point. We do not have a firm date on when this optional Wave 1.5 will ship out, but the plan is to have it at a mid-way point between Wave 1 and Wave 2, most likely starting to ship out sometime around March/April 2015. This Wave 1.5 is an optional extra cost and we don’t expect most Backers to elect to use it (just based on the high costs of shipping), but we wanted to make it available to any who want a huge influx of new material several months before absolutely everything is complete for Wave 2 to ship out.

Here's the shipping info:

What Comes in Wave 1?

The following items will be included in Wave 1 if you got them as part of your pledge level or purchased them in the Pledge Manager:

Shadows of Brimstone: City of the Ancients Core Set
Shadows of Brimstone: Swamps of Death Core Set
Miniature Set of Heroes and Enemies from both Core Sets in Variant RED color
Signed Art Print
Kickstarter-Exclusive Outlaw Hero Class (Rules, Upgrade Chart, Character Sheet, Game Cards, but No Miniature yet)
Bonus Promo Cards
Heroes of the Old West Premium Paint Set
Creatures of the Void Premium Paint Set
Pads of Color Blank Character Record Sheets
Pads of Color Blank Enemy Record Sheets
Shadows of Brimstone Vinyl Sticker Set

What Comes in the Optional Wave 1.5?

This is an early estimate of what we will have ready to ship in Wave 1.5, but is subject to change:

2 Otherworlds (TBD)
2-3 Mission Packs (TBD)
Outlaw Miniatures
3-5 New Hero Classes with Miniatures (TBD)
Blank Cards
6-12 Game Card Supplements (TBD)
4-12 New Enemy Groups (TBD, including some XL and XXL enemies)

What comes in Wave 2?

All remaining items. Wave 2 will only ship once everything from the Pledge Manager is ready.


The number of Void Sorcerers has been increased from 1 to 3, and they've added the following add-on items available for purchase with one's pledge: Extra copies of the KS Exclusive Outlaw, Trun Hunters, Trederran Mutants, Tribal Ghost Warriors, Corpse Piles, Derelict Ship Auto-Turrets, Artifact Card Supplements for each OtherWorld, Custom Dice Mega Set (one set of each of the custom dice), Blank Hero Character Sheet Pads and Enemy Record Sheet Pads, and sets of extra bases (30 mm, 40 mm, and 60 mm).

Finally, they've re-organized the blank card sets: Threat Set (Low, Med, High, and Epic Threats), a Mine Set (Mine Encounters, Mine Artifacts, Gear, and Darkness), and a set for each OtherWorld (world Encounters, world Artifacts, and OtherWorld Threats).

So it appears that Bull Nakano will get my piggybacking slot (if he's still interested) since he was first in line. For anyone else who'd like to piggyback I would go to BGG and post in the master piggybacking thread while it's still relatively small. I wish I could have helped out more people but unfortunately it won't be possible.