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New Warhammer 40K game from FFG

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17 Mar 2015 17:20 #199638 by mads b.
Forbidden Stars, story here: www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/3/17/forbidden-stars/

It seems like it uses a variant of the order system from Starcraft which is great. And other parts of it - the number of sectors on a tile for instance - also look Starcraft-ish, so it'll be exciting to see how close to one of the best board games ever this is.

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17 Mar 2015 18:40 #199642 by Jackwraith
Looks like the "no games with GW miniatures" prohibition has been lifted because those ships are direct copies of Battlefleet Gothic cruisers and battleships and those titans, while probably not to scale, are pretty damn close to Warlords, Gargant, Phantoms, etc Looks cool, but at $100, I think I'm just about priced out of the hobby these days.
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17 Mar 2015 18:44 #199643 by metalface13
a 40K themed dudes on a map game sounds great to me, didn't see the $100 price point though ... damn. This doesn't look like $100 worth of game though.

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17 Mar 2015 18:46 #199644 by Frohike
I'm looking at the shot of the components and the price tag and I'm scratching my head.

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17 Mar 2015 18:55 #199646 by Applejack
As a Warhammer 40,000 fan, I will probably get this. $100 is a lot, but with 33% off at an online retailer, the price is more reasonable. FFG has to pay GW after all.

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17 Mar 2015 18:57 - 17 Mar 2015 18:58 #199647 by Michael Barnes
$100? Are they out of their fucking minds?

How many of you people are going to shrug and say "welp, it's 40k, gotta have it!"

I saw that it appears to be a redevelopment of StarCraft and was ready to give it the nod and make room in the budget for it. But what I am looking at is a $60 game (RETAIL), not a hundred fucking dollar one. StarCraft supported TWO MORE PLAYERS and apparently had four times as many components in the box and it retailed at $80. Shit, Horus Heresy looks to have twice what this game has in terms of materials including those silly ashtrays it came with.

Even at a street price of $75, there is no way this game of this scope in terms of material product should have a market value that high. If the GW license incurs that much upcharge, then ditch it and do it as a Twilight Imperium title. Or a damn Terrinoth one.

But here again, you have these idiots telling publishers like FFG that they're willing to pay $100, $200, $300 for board games by backing a bunch of Kickstarter shit, so you reap what you sow, etc.
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17 Mar 2015 18:57 #199648 by Hex Sinister
A revised and streamlined Starcraft with a fourth faction sounds much more reasonable than a $200 Starcraft off eBay. Sounds pretty dope to me.

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17 Mar 2015 19:11 #199649 by hotseatgames
This sounded really cool. But not $100 cool.
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17 Mar 2015 19:25 - 17 Mar 2015 19:26 #199650 by Hex Sinister
I don't find the price particularly exciting either. I just expect that. A licensed FFG doam with plastic in a large box (in 2015) is going to be $70 at coolstuff. I'm not suggesting it should be celebrated I just don't know why that comes as a surprise.
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17 Mar 2015 19:33 - 19 Mar 2015 02:09 #199651 by Applejack
Just discovered this Youtube video. I think I can see why it's so expensive. Each of the four factions has six unique miniatures, in addition to the hive cities and manufactorums used by everybody. That's twenty-six different types of minis. And they all look extremely detailed, much like the Relic busts and very much unlike the Horus Heresy minis.



EDIT: And for posterity; www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/forbidden-stars-showcase/
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17 Mar 2015 19:55 #199652 by OldHippy
That looks fucking sexy, love it. I don't know if I can justify the price considering how little I play these days but I love the look of it for sure.

The price... well it doesn't seem surprising to me at all. Imperial Assault is the same price, many kickstarter games are about the same... it's not strange at all, it's par for the course.

Besides, money grows on trees man, I'm not gonna worry about it. If I find that I have the time to play it by then... I'll get it.
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17 Mar 2015 21:05 #199656 by Gary Sax

Hex Sinister wrote: A revised and streamlined Starcraft with a fourth faction sounds much more reasonable than a $200 Starcraft off eBay. Sounds pretty dope to me.


Dunno if I'll get it, but this was my reaction. Sounds good. If it's a solid game maybe I should sell my copy of starcraft and expansion for serious money.

100 is steep, so the quality has to be there.

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18 Mar 2015 05:55 #199666 by Chaz
I definitely don't love the $100 price tag. What I do like is that it sounds like it's a re-working of the Starcraft skeleton, which is awesome.

I'd much rather pay $100 for a game that's a re-working of a game that's really good and wicked out of print than pay $100 for a game that's a rethemed version of a game that was re-released a year or so ago. And shit, you know if Starcraft was a kickstarter game right now, it'd be a 4-player game with the 6 player expansion available as an addon, and require a $175 pledge to get all the units via stretch goals.

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18 Mar 2015 10:17 #199679 by Egg Shen
I don't care about the $100 price tag. It's gonna be at online stores and amazon for $60-$75. I just want this to be a fucking awesome game. This looks like it has the potential to be really bad ass. FFG does these really big conflict games really well. Who knows...this might be the next Chaos in the Old World. I've certainly got my eye on this.
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18 Mar 2015 10:53 - 18 Mar 2015 10:56 #199681 by VonTush
If this does to StarCraft what Eldritch did to Arkham, then I'm likely going to be on board.
As far as the price goes...It just gives me an incentive to sell some stuff to build up the funds to buy. Darn...

EDIT: Also, pretty awesome that they went specific with World Eaters, Craftworld Iyanden, Ultramarines and Evil Sunz. Even without bridging into other races there's still three chaos gods to address, other Craftworlds Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, then the other Orc Clans. I'd love to be able to play this with all four chaos gods in a giant chaotic chaos maelstrom.
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