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Knizia's LotR - Favorite way to play?
Base game? Base game + an expansion? Base game + all expansions?
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You definitely want Friends and Foes, if that's the question you're really asking here.
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I'm looking to re-aquire this and I've actually never played with expansions before. I liked the base game well enough, and well, you know me...
This time out, I'm thinking of maybe throwing an expansion in the mix.
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I never could get anyone interested in playing.
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Short answer: Friends and Foes every time, always. Sauron for more fun options with players who don't need rules reminders for the base+F&F, and Battlefields for something a little different. Track down the whole set if it's a game you know you enjoy and will play repeatedly.
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Battlefields is strange in some ways...I totally agree with Wade, some days it's like "Yes, we must use this because it's awesome and it increases tension and scope" and others it's like "this is a completely artificial and incongruous subsystem that doesn't really work with the core process". It does increase the complexity quite a bit because you've got these literal flowcharts (don't be worried- they make sense in the setting, actually) to deal with and MORE ways to get corrupted/move Sauron/cry softly because the game is so freakin' hard. Back when it came out I dismissed it completely, but over the years it's grown on me. I do stand by my original assertion that I think Knizia didn't quite finish the development on it- it isn't nearly as polished as the rest of the game.
I think it's really expensive these days, so it may be a moot point anyway.
Sauron is definitely a must if you want to all-vs-one play. I just don't care for the active opposition. It works, and it can be fun. There are some other additions in that set that you will want to have so don't try to squirrel out of an all-in purchase.
God I love this game. I'm going to solo it tonight.
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I've seen copies of some of the expansions floating around at some of our FLGS for around MSRP. I can go do a hunt if things get desperate for those looking to purchase.
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I assume F&F fits in the base game, but will I need to toss the base game insert?
It seems like adding 2 more boards would make the came downright impossible. And what is this I'm reading about a 'Black Gate' promo card? Is it a necessity?
How much overhead does F&F add?
At any point in any expansion is there a female character to play as? It would go a long way towards getting my daughter to play.
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Foes of F&F feel a little ordinary... merely flipping a card.
I saw your video on Friends and Foes, it was very good. I wanted to buy Friends and Foes after Barnes praised it but now not so sure.
Need to go into pure Eurosnoot mode and mull over my cubes a while
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Just tell her Sauron is an absolute bitch to play against (of course not if she's under 18).Mr. White wrote: O...
At any point in any expansion is there a female character to play as? It would go a long way towards getting my daughter to play.
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The*Mad*Gamer wrote:
Foes of F&F feel a little ordinary... merely flipping a card.
I saw your video on Friends and Foes, it was very good. I wanted to buy Friends and Foes after Barnes praised it but now not so sure.
Need to go into pure Eurosnoot mode and mull over my cubes a while
Thanks, Steve! I do appreciate that coming from you, especially. But until you mentioned that, I had forgotten that I even did some of those review videos. I stopped after a short spell of that when I felt like I wasn't really adding anything new or interesting to that, and was getting bored watching myself. I can bring personality and humor to my music and music videos, but I didn't feel cut out *at all* for that kind of video review thing. I'd much rather watch Shut Up and Sit Down or your videos.
Anyway, I do think that if you like the LOTR system, F&F is a must have, and I can appreciate that many like it more than Battlefields. I actually think the base game alone still holds up really well, and for the 1-2 times a year I still play LOTR, I opt for that at least some of the time, especially with new players included. Regardless, there is still a palpable excitement and tension that I feel when I've made it to Mordor and I'm trying desperately to scrape far enough to dunk the ring.
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