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Racism and Sexism as Gaming Culture
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29 Feb 2012 14:14 #117975
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I suggested in the thread about Bioware 'writer' Jennifer Hepler that two different, though overlapping, groups of gamers were acting like asshats in their attacks on Helper: those with honest criticisms of Hepler's work and the current direction of Bioware games, and a very ugly, generalized, group of racists and sexists that seethes in the cracks of the video gaming community. Well, the latter has struck again:
penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-articl...de-of-fighting-games
Listen to the links. Really, listen to them. There may be people that can listen to that shit without wanting to curbstomp the little sexist prick saying those things, but I ain't one of them. And setting aside the very literal abuse that's going on - setting aside the bullshit argument that 'this is part of our culture' - it's the victimhood that gets me. These people are very literally saying, 'The racist and sexist abuse is part of culture, and it's our right to say it, and we are so put upon when others suggest this is wrong.' This is the very edge of the victimhood-of-the-powerful so common in America. You all know the drill: "You know who the real minorities are? The Whites/Christians/Rich etc etc etc."
penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-articl...de-of-fighting-games
Listen to the links. Really, listen to them. There may be people that can listen to that shit without wanting to curbstomp the little sexist prick saying those things, but I ain't one of them. And setting aside the very literal abuse that's going on - setting aside the bullshit argument that 'this is part of our culture' - it's the victimhood that gets me. These people are very literally saying, 'The racist and sexist abuse is part of culture, and it's our right to say it, and we are so put upon when others suggest this is wrong.' This is the very edge of the victimhood-of-the-powerful so common in America. You all know the drill: "You know who the real minorities are? The Whites/Christians/Rich etc etc etc."
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29 Feb 2012 14:44 - 29 Feb 2012 14:44 #117977
by Dair
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Wow. Just wow. That is insane. I don't wish anything bad on anyone, but if I ever start doing it, that guy Aris may be at the top of my list.
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29 Feb 2012 14:54 #117978
by ubarose
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I would really like to see this discussion happen. However, as a member of this community I would like to request a couple of ground rules.
Please don't call each other ugly names
Please don't troll each other
Please don't bully or dog pile each other
Please step away from the key board if you feel that your anger is getting the better of you
Please keep in mind that anything you type here will NOT change other people's deep set beliefs
Please don't type drunk
Please don't call each other ugly names
Please don't troll each other
Please don't bully or dog pile each other
Please step away from the key board if you feel that your anger is getting the better of you
Please keep in mind that anything you type here will NOT change other people's deep set beliefs
Please don't type drunk
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29 Feb 2012 15:19 #117979
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I first heard about this on No High Scores. I refer you to my comments on the article there:
www.nohighscores.com/2012/02/29/sexism-f...s-and-jet-set-radio/
www.nohighscores.com/2012/02/29/sexism-f...s-and-jet-set-radio/
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29 Feb 2012 15:26 #117980
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That guy is a real piece of shit. The idea that in order to compete, you have to be a total, complete wanker, is beyond ridiculous. You don't see other professional athletes acting that way, and when they do, they're reprimanded or publicly humiliated.
Disgusting. Everyone on the planet should ostracize him and his kind.
Disgusting. Everyone on the planet should ostracize him and his kind.
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29 Feb 2012 15:50 #117982
by Steve Weeks
Replied by Steve Weeks on topic Re: Racism and Sexism as Gaming Culture
This is the result of spending too much time playing videogames and not enough time developing social skills. You see the same stuff in the boardgame realm. Who remembers the Magic the Gathering girl? Go look at any photo with an attractive girl on BGG and look at the comments.
This is a result also of bad parenting. The parents should have taken the Xbox away from this guy along time ago. The fact that he is good enough to compete in a tournament translates into too much time on the Xbox. This is how the Manchild comes into being. No doubt this guy still lives with his parents.
This is a result also of bad parenting. The parents should have taken the Xbox away from this guy along time ago. The fact that he is good enough to compete in a tournament translates into too much time on the Xbox. This is how the Manchild comes into being. No doubt this guy still lives with his parents.
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29 Feb 2012 16:16 #117983
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29 Feb 2012 16:23 #117984
by SaMoKo
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Is there even a fighting game community? I've never heard of it before and I doubt few have outside of some tiny socially stunted group of nerds. People just play these games for fun, and only a very small minority will care about the memes or culture that surround this shit. Capcom or whoever would be right to just kick the jackasses out, wash their hands, and call it a day. Then again, this is the company that made all of their female fighting characters fight in lingerie.
How is this even a debate? Are the really people sticking up for this crap outside of that Aris putz?
Never stop drunkposting :420:
How is this even a debate? Are the really people sticking up for this crap outside of that Aris putz?
Never stop drunkposting :420:
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29 Feb 2012 16:25 #117985
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That's STONEDPOSTING.
And I'd really love to see a brawl break out. Imagine that moron's surprise when he tries to do a Guile uppercut and no flames appear or when he cups his hands together to shoot a Hoooy Rooken fireball and nothing comes out. Shit, I should go to an arcade and START a nerdfight just to tape it.
And I'd really love to see a brawl break out. Imagine that moron's surprise when he tries to do a Guile uppercut and no flames appear or when he cups his hands together to shoot a Hoooy Rooken fireball and nothing comes out. Shit, I should go to an arcade and START a nerdfight just to tape it.
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29 Feb 2012 16:26 #117986
by VonTush
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There will always be idiots in this world. The sad fact is this particular idiot was placed in a leadership position and the mouthpiece for his team. To a limited extent I blame Capcom for not nipping this in the bud sooner.
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