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BurgerFi - pandering?

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25 Feb 2016 08:52 #223244 by Mr. White
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Total guess here, but I'd wager most servicemen and women may be from the southern and mid western states. Which is why you may see the community and parents support the military more in those states.

Again, a guess.
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25 Feb 2016 09:09 #223246 by SuperflyPete
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Black Barney wrote: THANK you, Pete. That's the answer I was looking for. I do actually think that about southerners continually worshipping the military if only because most businesses have some type of discount which I don't see up north very often at all. I'm more aware of this stereotype I have now and I'll try and curb it.

Craniac. If I lived walking distance to an in and out, I'd be dead by now


I'd argue more Midwest than South. Now, I come from a very, very long line of soldiers, airmen, and marines, and I'm pro-military as they come (both my father and brother, and my adopted father, brother, and sister served) but still, I think it's pandering of the most bullshit kind to thank some random soldier for his service when you have no ided what MOS he has, where he served, etc. One of my besties' fathers is a meteorologist who was stationed in Guam for 20 years. Guam is as close to paradise as you're going to find, as far as "places to live". The only danger he ever saw was catching chlamydia. He rotated back to the US and ended up getting a 250K+ job doing the same shit he did in paradise...looking up and guessing the weather, basically.

Not to take away from his service, but that motherfucker needs to thank ME for funding his 20 year vacation and training to get a job that pays the kind of money I can only dream of making.

Now, my buddy Matt was a 15Q "Flight Controller" and then got "voluntold" to sign up for SF Combat Flight Controller. He found himself moving from a 3-roomate apartment that was a sea of alcohol and pussy to being on a mountaintop in Afghanistan, freezing his balls off. THAT GUY...that's a guy who I thank for his service.

Just my 2C.
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25 Feb 2016 09:19 #223248 by Black Barney
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I think it's a slippery slope to start rating quality of service. It's not like that guy asked for Guam. Some of the people, especially women, killed in Afghanistan and Iraq were doing that type of work.

There's a great book that got me to really respect Marines. It's called Last Man Out and it's on the final soldiers that left Vietnam, they were embassy Marines and it talks a lot about the randomness of deployment locations

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25 Feb 2016 09:52 #223253 by SuperflyPete
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That's my point - there's so much randomness (and yes, he did ask for Guam, but I get your drift) that you can't know in advance, but that's kind of my point. I don't need to thank every guy for his service. I'd rather talk to them, ask what their job is, and then decide on my own.

I view this whole thing as an extension of the super nationalist movement that's being pushed on us at birth (Trump's new nationalism is a great example), and it sickens me.

At the end of the day, you have zero control of which vagina spits you into existence, nor where that vagina's "product of" stamp is from, hence where you're from is largely a totally random notion, and therefore, borders don't really matter all that much in the grand scheme of things. An individual American is no better than an individual Ugandan...one should be proud of what they've done, individually, not proud of what their country has done, because they have almost no control over that. It's like the morons who talk about "US" when discussing sporting teams, as if they played any contributing role other than perhaps buying a ticket or watching a game on TV. It's ludicrous to me.

/end rant
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25 Feb 2016 10:12 #223257 by MacDirk Diggler
I served in the Navy. I don't recall most of the people being from the Midwest or the South. I never took a poll, but there were people from all over. I was from New York, there were plenty of Californians. Maybe the Marines it's different.

Off topic,.... But man we played board games like crazy with our free time at sea. This was the 80s mind you, so we didn't have access to all the cool games there are now. Endless Risk and Axis and Allies.

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25 Feb 2016 10:26 #223261 by Cranberries
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Guam is as close to paradise as you're going to find, as far as "places to live".


I spent a week in Guam, and two years in the Marshall Islands, many years ago. Palm trees ≠ paradise. Preferable to cold Afghanistan mountain tops, of course.

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25 Feb 2016 10:26 #223262 by derekjinx
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When you're done eating the GMO and salt-laden fare of Florida, make a trip out to the armpit of Ontario, a little town called Cornwall. Nestled in a quaint corner of full-service truck stop is a place called Hero Certified Burgers. It's about 115 km from Montreal and just opened a few months ago. They're all over Toronto and expanding out into upstate New York and Ontario. They plan to open in Ottawa and Niagara Falls next. They do fully traceable, made to order burgers, and carry a host of other meats should 4 oz, 6 oz, and 8 oz beef options not suffice. They are tasty.
Next time you go west into the English territories, I recommend you stop in.
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25 Feb 2016 10:33 #223264 by Black Barney
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oh man, can't wait! Thanks for the suggestion. I used to go to Cornwall all the time when I'd play blackjack or poker at Awkwesasne Mohawk Casino on the US side.

thanks, Jinx.

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25 Feb 2016 10:35 #223265 by Columbob
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I've had the Hero burger in TO and it's great.

Though Ottawa already has The Works which is slowly expanding towards southern Ontario.

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25 Feb 2016 10:36 #223266 by MacDirk Diggler
Ok. Most of the military does come from the south. Just read article from 2013 that said 44% of enlisted were from south. Southern Atlantic states especially Georgia and Florida were very high. New England the lowest.

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25 Feb 2016 10:46 #223268 by Black Barney
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The Works is the worst, that place is so overrated

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25 Feb 2016 11:19 #223273 by SuperflyPete
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Oh...Classic Burger in West Springfield, MA.

That is the best burger place, actually. Legomancer would disagree (based on his commentary) but he is aware of it. Maybe Shellie and Al (and really, all of the CT folks) may know of it. Great stuff.

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25 Feb 2016 11:36 #223276 by metalface13
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craniac wrote: Orem is a very weird place, as is Provo, and I say that as an active mormon. I have an increased sensitivity to the stress of living in a heavily-religious community after spending two years in Qatar.

Speaking of veganism, I am a fake vegan right now. I can't eat wheat, dairy and really shouldn't have very much meat but cheat. Do you have a favorite vegan cookbook--I'm guessing you just grab handfuls of raw vegetables at this point.


I'm active LDS too and spent my time in Provo/Orem and they are indeed very strange towns. I can't say there is really anything I miss about living there except Burgers Supreme. There burgers weren't really all that supreme but they had my favorite gyros and fries. I also don't care for fry sauce, but their fry sauce was good.

As for vegan recipes I've been dabbling in veganism for the past 4 months or so. Still eat meat/dairy maybe once or twice a week, but other than that it's mostly vegan. I really like minimalistbaker.com/ everything I've tried from that site has been good.

Back to the subject of burgers, In-N-Out is OK, but I agree they face too much competition now and have expanded too far so they don't really feel like a regional specialty anymore. The one we went to when we lived in California seemed the best and I didn't care for it so much when they opened the one in Orem. In Austin P. Terry's is much better in my opinion and they have the option of a chicken burger or veggie burger, I like their fries better too. And they have good cookies. Five Guys is fine, but kind of greasy and messy. Shake Shack was really good when I had it in NYC, they were opening one in Austin but I don't think it was done before we left.

I'm starting to miss Austin food: P. Terry's, Mighty Fine, Torchy's, Tacodeli, Chuy's. When I eat out I prefer a local place or a regional/local chain. I was never impressed by Whataburger though.

If anyone comes to Pittsburgh and wants a burger you have to go to Burgatory. Super thick burgers that are delicious. We went out there last Saturday and I had a 50/50 ground beef and ground bacon burger topped with cheese, bread-and-butter pickles, bacon, peanut butter and bacon jelly. My wife got a wild elk burger and we split them. So delicious. Yeah ... like I said I'm "vegan."

Back to the original topic of pandering, I don't think BurgerFi has anything to do with Semper Fi, but I do get annoyed with the military pandering certain brands do. Like Budweiser a couple of years ago staged this commercial where they threw homecoming parties for returning servicemen and women. How about you donate the millions of dollars you spent on the commercial to a worthy veteran's related cause if you like veterans so much?
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25 Feb 2016 12:24 #223287 by Legomancer
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SuperflyTNT wrote: Oh...Classic Burger in West Springfield, MA.

That is the best burger place, actually. Legomancer would disagree (based on his commentary) but he is aware of it. Maybe Shellie and Al (and really, all of the CT folks) may know of it. Great stuff.


I don't know it, actually.

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25 Feb 2016 14:11 #223295 by SuperflyPete
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Legomancer wrote:

SuperflyTNT wrote: Oh...Classic Burger in West Springfield, MA.

That is the best burger place, actually. Legomancer would disagree (based on his commentary) but he is aware of it. Maybe Shellie and Al (and really, all of the CT folks) may know of it. Great stuff.


I don't know it, actually.


Wow, I'm shocked. It's like 20 minutes from you. Jim turned me onto it.
www.classicburgers.net/

Fantastic.

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