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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 16 Nov 2017 19:35 #257771

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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 16 Nov 2017 20:29 #257773

I just watched this and thought, "we are fucked"
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 16 Nov 2017 20:46 #257774

But can it use stairs?
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 16 Nov 2017 21:41 #257775

Yeah but can I make sexs with it?
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 16 Nov 2017 22:59 #257776

I believe Hotseatgames just said we're fucked so yes.
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 08:17 #257780

Can they make one that is 30 feet tall and fires lasers?
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 08:22 #257781

This is more like the future


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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 08:38 #257784

Boston Dynamics videos always have two facets -- 1) the robot is anthropomorphic or animal-morphic; and until the video above 2) they're always kicking or beating it. It's like they've got an itch to abuse something and spend their time creating robots so they can do it without getting arrested. At no point do they seem to be showing any robotic that is actually doing something useful.



That's what robotics can do.
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 08:52 #257786

Yeah, but robotics+AI can do other things

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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 10:53 #257791

Scare tactics. Tiny swarms are not difficult to defeat with a variety of jamming technologies. If the connection is remote ( so not truly AI) you jam the feed. If truly independent, you either blind them or disrupt their internal electronics. Nothing is impossible to defeat with effort.

Far too many people watching sci fi and believing that is really the future. We cannot even categorise what is meant by consciousness, which I would think, would be an essential precurser to true AI. I saw similar scare stories in the 70s and AI is no closer. Money for AI research is drying up as funders realise that it is the quintessential money sink. There was a huge peak in the mid 70s which really got us nowhere.

Facial recognition defeated by wearing a mask or make up. Yep, computers are nowhere near as smart as we are. They are just faster.
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 12:07 #257796

ThirstyMan wrote:
I saw similar scare stories in the 70s and AI is no closer. Money for AI research is drying up as funders realise that it is the quintessential money sink. There was a huge peak in the mid 70s which really got us nowhere.

And this in spite of them moving the goal posts WAY closer over the last 25 years. AI has been a dream since the fifties and for the most part it is still relying on brute force methods to solve its problems.

My teams are trying to recognize a whiffle ball with a phone camera for this year's game challenge. The software just can't do it. It looks at the same ball rotated a little bit as a no-match, a different object, in spite of it supposedly having a 3-D mapping of it in memory. Super easy stuff is still incredibly hard for AI, the state of the art just hasn't moved very much in the last 20 years. The stuff that people are making work is hardcore coding one-offs, and that just ain't gonna do it for more general problems.
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 12:34 #257798

From what I understand, the more pressing short-term danger of AI is using them to collate, sort and dispense data where the people acting on the resulting output don't understand or are not aware of the AI's hard-coded biases and/or limitations. Simply put, Bias In, Bias Out.
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 21:53 #257814

Yeah well I'm a robot..
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 22:12 #257815

Pat II wrote:
Yeah well I'm a robot..

I don't remember seeing you at any of the Cylon parties.
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All Hail our Robot Overlords! 17 Nov 2017 23:49 #257821

I worked for a machine vision company for two years in an engineering field. I’m both aware of the limitations and the difficulties, but 17 years ago the particular package I worked on could identify complex geometries and reflectivities with a mix of laser range finding and template based modelling systems. All coded to be operated by someone with very midrange computer skills.

In 1999.

Shit is much better now. Don’t count machine vision out quite yet, and masks and makeup won’t work unless they’re overmolded.
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