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Return of zombies to Hollywood?

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11 Jan 2008 08:14 #237 by jur
Went to see I am legend yesterday and concluded that to all intents and purposes, it is a zombie movie. (and I do recommend seeing it on the big screen rather than on DVD).

With Planet Terror also released last year (regrettably to a smaller audience), is there a revival of the zombie movie in the mainstream?

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11 Jan 2008 08:23 #238 by Ken B.
I wouldn't say "mainstream", but yeah, zombie movies are definitely more high profile than in years past. Better production values and more mainstream hype, that's for sure.

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11 Jan 2008 08:38 #241 by Mr Skeletor
What a fucking dire 3rd act that movie had. I so don't get what the writer was thinking.

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11 Jan 2008 08:45 #243 by jur
True, the script deteriorates. I would have thought that bit was the 4th act and they skipped 3rd, but apparently there's been rewrites.

But Ken, if this is a major box office hit (and not sold as a zombie movie, to the surprise of many viewers around me), how is it mot mainstream?

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11 Jan 2008 08:55 #244 by Ken B.
It wasn't truly advertised as a zombie movie, it was Will Smith that brought 'em in. That guy's bulletproof.

Having a project like this can only raise the stakes for future zombie films, though. But no "casual viewers" I know have even referred to it as a zombie movie...they thought of it as a "vampire" movie.


Either way, yeah, it's a good time to be a fan of zombie films and genre films in general.

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11 Jan 2008 09:28 #248 by jur
Technically the infected humans are vampires, but the setting and the plotline conform to the zombie genre.

As in the classification of monsters: one or a few superhuman monsters with an achilles heel (Frankenstein, Godzilla, King Kong, Predator, War of the World, alien (1 & 3) vs masses of subhuman monsters (zombies, aliens).

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11 Jan 2008 10:25 #254 by Michael Barnes
I AM LEGEND was total Hollywood gloss shit with a terrible religious message. I can't understand how _three_ screenplays based on the novel have failed to capture the most interesting element of the story- and in this new one they completely change why it's called I AM LEGEND, which is fucking ridiculous.

And another thing...CGI zombies have got to go...one of the main things that makes older zombie pictures so great (and even 28 DAYS LATER for that matter) is that they're _gritty_, not glossy, and the effects are all practical- makeup and craftsmanship over stupid fucking PS3 graphics that flippity flop around the screen. Watch ZOMBI or even DELLAMORE DELLAMORTE for zombie pictures with some teeth.

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11 Jan 2008 10:29 #256 by Michael Barnes
I actually like THE OMEGA MAN quite a bit regardless of its infidelity to Matheson's novel...and the sad thing is that those dudes in the white facepaint with the afros and sunglasses were more convincing then the sub-RESIDENT EVIL shit that was in I AM LEGEND.

And what the fuck was up with that five minute long SHREK commercial in it? And why does the lady at the end come driving up in the new 2008 Ford Explorer when it's supposed to be 2012 or whatever? Oh yeah, because it's fucking crass-ass Hollywood commercialism at its absolute worst- a movie that aims for the "spiritual" but gets the biggest audience response out of a pile of useless money in the bank scene.

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11 Jan 2008 10:31 #257 by Michael Barnes
Oh, and another thing...I get Bob Marley. I understand that's he's a very important musical and social figure and I have utmost respect for his legacy. But I never fucking want to hear anything on "Legend" again for as long as I live. There is other reggae in the world, believe it or not. It was just another god damned commercial in a film full of commercials.

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11 Jan 2008 12:03 #289 by Kriz
I also hated I Am Legend. It's horrible for all the reasons Michael mentioned, but some of them need to be expanded upon. The book is one of the best horror novels ever written, with one of the best twist endings ever. Really; read the book, its not long and has a very badass ending. You would think Hollywood, which can never get enough of crazy twists at the end of things, would at least save the ending but I guess the novel just made too much sense. I'm absolutely fine with filmmakers taking liberties with a book and changing things around or whatever, but they better put something cool in its place. Not to spoil anything, but they took out taunting, trash talking, back stabbing, drinking, hopelessness and HORROR and replaced it with religion, shrek, hope, CGI monsters that all look exactly the same, crying, elitism....

I mean in the book its cool because he's just a regular guy with his own shattered hopes and dreams lost in a horrific apocalypse. In the movie he's a world class scientist, military and nationally renowned hero who has hightech secret lab trying to find a cure to save the human race....that is stupid and boring and elitist. In the book its a guy who spends his days hunting down the undead, basically for revenge and his own amusement. Thats all you need, thats cool; you don't need all that other crap.

OK, that had to be said. On to zombies....

Zombies are indeed enjoying a rennaissance that has been unparalleled in horror movie history. The past 5 to 6 years have seen a huge upswing in not only the number and quality of zombie movies but also generally their overall acceptance into mainstream society. What I mean by this is I think this is more than just a fad; zombies have now become an integral part in the horror lexicon and history, standing on their own right beside the classic horror figures such as Dracula and Frankenstein's Monster.

Pirates are in vogue now too. All we need now is for Ninjas to make a comeback.

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11 Jan 2008 12:33 #292 by Michael Barnes
Even though I AM LEGEND touches on emotional loss and damage that's really the focus of the novel (which is, in fact, pretty god damned great), this recent adaption is much more about "Kewl, Will Smith get to drive a hotrod top speed through NYC, he's got a pimpin' apartment, and look at all that money!!! Boo ya! Aw, hell naw!"

I AM LEGEND is a very elitist, bourgeosie movie and as such it speaks to those values...which I fucking hate. It's all about "stuff"...capitalist junk with this goofy left-wing "spiritual" baloney tacked on in the last act.

It's weird seeing zombies so popular...I remember growing up in the 80s and zombie movies were just the absolute shit, hardcore horror for hardcore fans and beyond NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, they weren't a mainstream phenom at all. Now everybody's aware of them, they're sanitized and cleaned up for primetime.

It's pretty sad though, that I'd rather watch the absolutely pathetic, idiotic, and incredibly amateurish HELL OF THE LIVING DEAD over a multimillion dollar hollywood project. At least that movie is honest about what it is and what it isn't.

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11 Jan 2008 12:51 #298 by NeonPeon
I've been into zombies way before they went mainstream - you know, back when they were playing in clubs.

Diary (almost typed "Dairy" ) of the Dead comes out next month. Hope it's good.

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11 Jan 2008 15:39 #336 by Kriz
Thats the drawback whenever anything goes mainstream...some movies are released and watered down to appeal to the widest possible audience. I however, think for zombies this is the best thing that could happen to them. It brought us some great high budget zombie movies where we get to see literally armies of undead that were impossible to see in their lower budget forms. However in love with the low budget classics that you are (and I very much count myself in that camp) you have to appreciate the hordes of thousands of zombies in Dawn of the Dead 2004 or seeing the full effect of a military onslaught on the undead in 28 Weeks Later. Plus, zombies couldn't have picked a better time to go mainstream...as a long time gore-hound I'm amazed by how just about any amount of violence is allowed in movies these days...I think its great but I wish other regulations would relax as well. I mean gore wise you can do anything you want now and still get an R, I've even seen decapitations (which used to be an automatic "X" rating) in PG-13 flicks.

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11 Jan 2008 15:43 #338 by Kriz
Oh and speaking of sanitation....has anyone ever seen "The Midnight Hour"? It was a made for TV horror flick released in the mid 80s that actually is pretty hilarious in its own stupid way. They couldnt show any blood or violence at all, so for example the zombies would just bust in someone's house en masse, steal all their stuff, and shuffle out. It was pretty amusing.

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11 Jan 2008 15:53 #344 by jur
Kriz wrote:

as a long time gore-hound I'm amazed by how just about any amount of violence is allowed in movies these days


Considering the number of humans Smiths gets to kill in I am Legend, it is amazing it goes unrated. If on the other hand, he would have made a suggestive remark to the doll in the video store, it would probably have been 16+

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