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Favorite GW miniatures game?
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I know GW gets a lot of flak from serious miniatures players, but come on, what better portal into minis is there than GW? Granted it was my first and only foray into minis...but what's your favorite?
For me I liked the small scale games best where you could advance your team/gang/mob. So Blood Bowl ranks top on my list, followed by Necromunda. It doesn't get more ameritrashy than bash'em up football (ok maybe it's rugby?) in BB and gang violence like in Necromunda!
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´Serious´ miniature players (do you mean ´historical´?) may have a problem with the Warhammer rules (dicefest, cheesing) and the marketing side (lock in, high prices). Let's say that without the high quality of the mini's, they'd never gotten away with it.
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Necromunda. This game was an innovation through and through, if you ask me. There was the included 3D modular terrain, campaign play, great variety of expansions and support.
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Then the bastards changed the rules again and made many of the figurines, if not all of them obsolete. I will never spend another dime on GW minis.
I find this the strangest grievance against GW. Nobody forbids you playing Epic by the old rules. There's loads of free rules out there. Heck, you can even make your own rules.
The lock in that GW tries to achieve all depends on you not thinking for yourself. I've had loads of fun with the original plastic Space Marines, but never played 40K. Free your mind, man!
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I think gasoline is the only thing that's had more inflation in the past 5 years.
Let's just not get started on the ridiculous bullshit with the rules, especially on the FAQs...
Q: What happens if you give the Honorifica Imperialis to an Ogryn sergeant?
A: Why would you want to do that?
Well, maybe because its one of the few models listed that can specifically take the fucking thing!
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Then the bastards changed the rules again and made many of the figurines, if not all of them obsolete. I will never spend another dime on GW minis.
I find this the strangest grievance against GW. Nobody forbids you playing Epic by the old rules. There's loads of free rules out there. Heck, you can even make your own rules.
The lock in that GW tries to achieve all depends on you not thinking for yourself. I've had loads of fun with the original plastic Space Marines, but never played 40K. Free your mind, man!
Oh I've played with the rules I own many times but I like a game that is supported. When the support dries up in favor of marketing a slightly newer version of the same model I just don't have much respect for that and lose all interest. It's not like they are improving anything.
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GW a good "entry" into minis games? Holy crap, have you seen their prices lately?[/quote
I didn't say it's a "good" entry into mini games, but for a lot of people it was THE entry into minis games in the 90s. Now with the various collectible miniatures games, Privateer Press with Warmachine and Hordes, and Rackham with Confrontation and AT-43 there are lots of minis games to jump into the hobby with.
But when I was 13 and in 8th grade the only minis the local comic shops carried in any sort of quantity were GW games. And when you're 13, Space Orks and Tyranids look pretty damn awesome!
As pricey as GW games are, minis games in general are pretty expensive. My friend and I tried to get into 40K but couldn't really afford to build an army of anything beyond 500 points. So we stuck with the campaign games: Necromunda, Gorkamorka and Blood Bowl. Gorkamorka was kind of like necromunda were you built mobs of orks but they drove around in big trucks thrashing the crap out of each other. It was ok but not as good as Necromunda. Necromunda's 3D terrain was pretty awesome and the campaign rules were quite excellent.
But my favorite is Blood Bowl, I still play it from time to time on fumbbl.com where you can play a flash version for free.
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40k and BFG are my top GW games but epic is also fun.
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