Let's Talk Dark Future

yeah. Some years ago, the first time I owned this, I had a few yards of some brown specked fabric that I laid on the table. super cheap.

Btw, did you ever play with the pedestrian rules from WD? I did on several occasions because I wanted to make use of those great 20mm minis. Thing is, they only seemed to work if we were playing on a closed track. a loop. playing on the open, randomly generated road meant the drivers that got out of their cards would quickly be left behind and out of the game.

Is there another way to play with them that I'm missing/hadn't thought of?

I had a bunch of the pedestrians, I went all in on everything DF. But like you say, on a rolling track they soon get left behind. It's more for missions where there's a static objective, like some stalled tanker or something.

Once I got the racing rules (jalopies!) I didn't go back to regular highway pursuits. I go by the advice of Taurus in Interstate '76: "Never get out of the car."

I never played the "A Day at the Races" rules. I simply would have us run through three scenarios with win/loss pts and whichever gang/corp had the most points after the third scenario won.

It's been a long, long time since I read those jalopy rules...can you summarize them? How well did they work out in actual play?

Already having BB and DB as league games I was thinking DF would be more one-off or, like I mentioned above, a handful of scenarios. However, if the jalopy campaign rules are decent maybe I'll give them a go.

What I would like to do though is bring in a little more 'demon' like in the novels. There was a long ago rumor that the demon appearances in 1995 are the far, far, FAR back origins of the 40K universe. I dunno if there was any truth to that, but I can totally see them tossing that idea around the studio. Anyway, I hope to house rule maybe some demon-touched drivers. Would be a good use for some of the more crazy hot wheels such as:

Jeez, it was a long time ago. The thing I liked most about the jalopies (and they were the highlight of the racing rules for me) was that the cars were garbage. Like stats of 2 across everything, and they were dirt cheap so they made a really nice starting place to build a racing team from. I guess you could just start with more money, but I liked these crappy cars. I think they were low on hard points also, so you couldn't cheese them out with weapons. They made for viable "crappy but numerous" bandit kind of cars and turned my childhood collection of Matchbox and Corgi cars into death racers.

Next time I visit the UK I can see a lot of this stuff coming back in my luggage.

Looking foward to that so we can get some more DF discussion here.

Poked around during lunch and apparently there was a DF article in an issue of GDW's Challenge magazine. Issue 52 same some rules for a gang called the Sand Cats by Graeme (WFRP) Davis.

Anyone got a 'copy'?

I have no idea. I swear I got some kind of scans of DF and White Line Fever and some other stuff stashed on a (probably now defunct) hard disk from years ago, but I never saw any files again.

Mr. White wrote: Looking foward to that so we can get some more DF discussion here.

Poked around during lunch and apparently there was a DF article in an issue of GDW's Challenge magazine. Issue 52 same some rules for a gang called the Sand Cats by Graeme (WFRP) Davis.

Anyone got a 'copy'?

I'll check Mr. White, I've got a few copies from that era.

Update: found issue 53 so I'm pretty optimistic.

Some in-play footage of the video game is up.
www.darkfuture.info/blog/

I'm still amazed this game is getting made in this setting. However, over on the Auroch Digital FB page a few interesting tidbits have come up:

1) Sounds like they may, down the road (ha!), implement some of the demon stuff from the novels. Possibly even reinforce the rumor of this being the beginnings of the 40k universe. That would make sense as the tie-in to the new 40k based game
2) Pete Knifton (artist of DF and 2nd ed BB) mentions he did some concepts for a DF toy range that was supposed to release in the mid-90s. An updated Redd Harvest was part of the line. Shorter hair and what not. I had no idea a toy line was in the works.

Not sure about front-engined Renegades, but I'm mostly happy to see the game living on in some form.

Has anyone here read both the original GW novels and the recent (well...a decade ago) Black Flame editions? I'm on the hunt for these novels now and was intending to just get the originals.

I've read all of them about a decade ago. Jack Yeovil's run still rules.
The recent editions were reprints of some old ones, and 3-4 new books which were all right I suppose, exploring more of this dystopian future. 2 of them were by the same author and featured the same protagonist. One was set in the Far East, another one in South America.

For anyone interested:
app.box.com/s/3zgpguvxwu8f81q3qx3losf76vbmygmu

DF, St Louis Blues, Day at the Races...and a shitload more. At the back of the book.

Mr. White wrote: Has anyone here read both the original GW novels and the recent (well...a decade ago) Black Flame editions? I'm on the hunt for these novels now and was intending to just get the originals.

Hey Jeff, I have no intention of rereading them in the foreseeable future, if ever, so if you can stomach the shipping costs from the (currently sweltering) Great White North to Texas, I'm willing to send the whole series your way.

I have the original gw Route 666 (anthology book) already on order, but I'd be interested in what you have.

Can you list the titles and publisher?

Pretty much this Wikipedia list , all original editions except for the 4 last ones. Not sure if I have the GW or Boxtree edition of Krokodyle Tears, I'll have to check.

I had hopes that the Black Flame run would mean we'd finally see the fabled United States Calvary, but alas, that ship has sailed.