Au contraire, you cranky old fucker Clint Eastwood! By participating in a F:AT-sanctioned Arms Trade, your boundless joy is assured! Nothing is at risk! Trade only if you want to! But if you do, you get something you have personally OK'd.
This thread runs a "math trade"--a computer assisted algorithm to determine the best possible combination of trades so everyone ends up with games they want, even if not trading one-to-one. People will submit cryptically formatted lists to me that I hand graciously to the Mayor of Carmel, who will arrange for some pissant underling to do whatever-the-hell-needs-happening.
An example would be:
Black Barney WANTS a sexy volleyball girl love pillow and HAS Reef Encounter
Barnes WANTS Reef Encounter and HAS a lot of shitty opinions
Uba WANTS a lot of shitty opinions and HAS sexy love pillows.
(Clint just wants to make movies about jazz greats without Spike Lee getting all up in his shit.)
The pissant will collate or whatever he-goddamned-does-all-day and tell Black Barney to send Reef Encounter to Barnes. Barnes will send his shitty opinions to Uba. Uba will don her protective hazmat suit and package the love pillow to Barney. She will then take a shower, but she will never be clean. Everyone is happy! (Except the love pillow.)
The Carmel City Attorney assures us that you are not obligated to trade any games away. If you have a game that outshines the competition, submit an empty list for it, and it won't go anywhere.
+++++ RULES +++++
You can post games you are willing to trade away immediately. To do so, in your FIRST reply to this thread: Enter your name, your location, how much shipping you are willing to cover and your games and their condition. You can edit this reply until the "closed for submission" time to add more games, but once I add the game to the master list in this post, YOU CANNOT REMOVE IT until the trades are finalized. If you remove an item after it has been added to the list:
GAMES FOR TRADE: Matt Loter, 06812, USA – I’ll cover the first $10 to ship everywhere.
• DUNE – FFG 2012 edition that's actually a different game. New in shrink!
• Gherkin Jerkin – Hans im Gluck. Very rare import. Well played lover’s copy.
The closed for submission time is Friday Mar 30 5pm PDT CLOSED. SUBMIT WANTS.
Want lists for each item you've added to the list are due by Tuesday Apr 3rd 3pm PDT
Feel free to submit want lists early. All want lists are to be PMed to my account here (jeb).
This isn't a "no shipping" trade. People from the tumbleweed strewn wests of Spain may participate. Please state your shipping status in your Games For Trade post. THIS IS IMPORTANT. Shipping is a big deal. If you live in New York, and you put a game from the mexican border town of San Miguel on your Want List, BE PREPARED TO PAY FOR A SUBSTANTIAL CHUNK OF THE COST OF HAVING GAMES SHIPPED TO YOU. If someone offers "free shipping globally!" they are going to pay a frigging fortune shipping games--that's their prerogative. On the other hand, you cannot opt out of shipping internationally. You should set an upper bound on what you're willing to spend, and chase the recipient for the extra you'll need to get it to her. (Another way to look at it: You will pay for having games shipped to you, but many games come with a cash bonus to offset the shipping cost. )
I am the ultimate arbiter of any disputes. By signing up some games here, you are submitting to this rule. I don't care if you don't like my decision. You don't want to be the first jackass to be added to the bad trader list, do ya, punk?
When adding games for trade, you must describe the condition of the game, and note if anything is missing. If not noted, the game will assumed to be complete and in good condition. Also note if the game is not an English language edition. Please verify that you actually have possession of the game before adding a game to this list for trade. Seriously. Go to your garage and look at the game. Maybe rats ate some pieces or something. TAKE A LOOK. If it's a video game, note what system it's for and whether or not you have the box and manual and so forth. Lean towards being more informative rather than less. LORD OF THE RINGS is not super helpful, for example. The Knizia boardgame? Some flavor of video game? A nice set of the books?
Please use the following format for your Want Lists:
(FAT_Username) Your_Game_Number : Game_wanted_#1 Game_wanted_#2 Game_wanted_#3 &c.
A possible list might look like this:
This means I have four games to trade away: 1, 11, 12 and 16. My game 16 is very dear to me and there was nothing I wanted to trade for. Oh well. Game 12 I could part with for game 14. Game 1 could go for Game 14, 18, or 19. And Game 11 I want to move along, so I'll take any of the six games listed for it.
Look at this handsome fella. How could he lead you astray?
LINEAR-PRIORITIES: Use the 1,2,3,4,... priority scheme.
SMALL-STEP=1: Adjust how priorities change between successive entries in a want list. (The default value is 1.)
BIG-STEP=9: Adjust how priorities change for each semicolon in a want list. (The default value is 9.)
REQUIRE-COLONS: Make colons mandatory for every want list.
REQUIRE-USERNAMES: Make usernames mandatory for every want list.
ITERATIONS=100: If set to a number larger than 1, then use randomization to find num different solutions, keeping the solution with the best sum-of-squares metric. Note that all of the solutions will have the same number of trades and the same total cost.
ALLOW-DUMMIES: Allow users to include dummy items to protect against getting duplicates.
There have been some questions about how to best use dummy items to protect against getting duplicate items. Here is a big ass quote from the Trade Maximiser wiki page…
Suppose you are looking for Vegas Showdown in a math trade, and other people have put up several copies of it. If you have put up a single item in the math trade, then you can safely put all the copies of Vegas Showdown in your want list, as in
005-HTMF : 197-CAYL 123-VEGA 078-VEGA 150-VEGA 026-TOCO
However, suppose you are creating several want lists. If you put all the copies of Vegas Showdown in all of your want lists, as in
005-HTMF : 197-CAYL 123-VEGA 078-VEGA 150-VEGA 026-TOCO
006-JENG : 197-CAYL 123-VEGA 078-VEGA 150-VEGA 026-TOCO
then you might end up with multiple copies of Vegas Showdown. In some situations, this would be okay, but in other situations, you would vastly prefer not to get multiple copies of the same game.
In TradeMaximizer, you can protect against getting duplicates by adding a dummy wantlist, as follows:
1. Add username tags to all of your want lists (if you haven't already).
(cokasaki) 005-HTMF : 197-CAYL 123-VEGA 078-VEGA 150-VEGA 026-TOCO
(cokasaki) 006-JENG : 197-CAYL 123-VEGA 078-VEGA 150-VEGA 026-TOCO
Username tags have the form "(name)" and go at the beginning of the want list.
2. Create a dummy item, named "%something", and add the set of duplicate items to the want list of the dummy item.
(cokasaki) %VEGAS : 123-VEGA 078-VEGA 150-VEGA
3. Now remove the duplicate items from your regular want lists, and add the dummy item instead.
(cokasaki) 005-HTMF : 197-CAYL %VEGAS 026-TOCO
(cokasaki) 006-JENG : 197-CAYL %VEGAS 026-TOCO
Now at most one of your regular items can "win" the dummy item, and the dummy item can win at most one of the duplicate items, so you will receive at most one of the duplicates.
Some things to note about dummy items:
• Dummy items can only be used if the trade moderator has selected the ALLOW-DUMMIES option.
• You must include a username tag in any want list that involves dummy items.
• You can create as many dummy items as you want.
• You cannot refer to anyone else's dummy items, nor can they refer to yours.
• You can refer to one of your dummy items in the want list of another dummy item.
• Dummy items are not included in the trade count, so they do not artificially inflate the number of trades.
• In a trade with priorities, keep in mind that priorities are ignored in the want list for a dummy item. However, the priority of the dummy item in the want list for one of your regular items is handled normally.
• Dummy items are elided from the trade output. For example, if 006-JENG received %VEGAS and %VEGAS received 123-VEGA, then the output would say that 006-JENG received 123-VEGAS
Fantastic job, everyone. Amazing. Clint's squinty eyes popped wide open when he saw > 30% trading. This can be a little hard to parse, but you should be able to find your name section below, note which game numbers you are sending out, and to whom.
Get in touch with the people you are SENDING TO and RECEIVING FROM. Use PMs to start off, but I STRONGLY recommend moving the address exchanges and so forth to email and/or the BGG Trade screen--it makes the bookkeeping easier. Ask your recipients about what shipping vendor they prefer--some are better than others for various reasons. If they don't care, that doesn't mean you can slap some tape on there and ship it out. Send your games in a timely manner. Send your games well packed. Send it with TRACKING. It's worth it.
Please recall that I am the ultimate arbiter of disputes. I hope everyone is cool, but if you send something without tracking and it doesn't show up--I'm going to make you pay for a replacement and/or send it again. TRACKING TRACKING TRACKING. Feel free to take your chances, it's up to you. Insurance is worth considering.
If you are sending internationally, plan on spending a little extra time on the paperwork. You are sending a GIFT, its nominal value is $1. This keeps your recipient from getting super-humped by import taxes.
Carmen - 44320 - I will cover the first $10 to ship anywhere.
Munchkin Quest - like new, played once.
Munchkin Zombies - like new, played twice.
Penny Arcade The Card Game - opened but never played. NOT the deck builder.
Skyrim (360) - practically brand new condition including box, book, and map.
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (360) - in perfect condition. Books and box a1
Dungeon Siege 3 (360) - Absolutely perfect condition. Books and box a1
I said I had stuff to trade. I didn't say they were gems, lol.
Dominant Species - new in shrink
Pod racing slave - slightly used condition
My balls - well loved players copy
I'll add a bunch more later.
Warhammer Fantasy, Warriors of Chaos Batallion Box - open but everything is still on sprue
Survive! - mildly beat up 80s edition. Looks complete. I use bits from my original 80s edition with the new Stronghold edition cause fuck wood pieces.
Diplomacy - 70s edition, typical wear
Carcassone - unpunched
Carcassone - barely used
Venture Forth - HOT NEW KICKSTARTER GOLD!
Sorry, I'm pretty broke and can't be shipping a ton of stuff around right now so I'm keeping it small.
- Matt Loter: Internet Social Justice Warrior or Idealist Thug?
Incursion; includes an extra board and PnP cards for MI 13
Ape Starter Set; metal miniatures w/ bases for Incursion, unassembled, bagged, box NOT included
German Starter Set; metal miniatures w/ bases for Incursion, unassembled, bagged, box NOT included, plus 2 extra zombies I'll be submitting an empty list for this. I traded it on TOS.
MI 13 Starter Set; metal miniatures w/ bases for Incursion, unassembled, bagged, box NOT included
$35 in Fandango gift cards; A polite identity thief used my credit info to buy some stuff and sent me these as an apology. There aren't any theaters in my area that accept them but I figure some of you movie buff might want them.
Corunea: Crazy complicated, French, roleplaying, semi-collectible (dead) card game. Every thing four people need to play; 2 of every class specific card, 4 of every general card, all the expansion cards, all the adventure cards, rule book, dice. In long card box, not sleeved.
Jeb Adams, 91301. Domestic US shipping. First $15 elsewhere.
Boardgames TROYES -- Opened, but unplayed. Going to be too complicated for my kids. Decent Euro, from what I have heard. WARRIOR KNIGHTS -- FFG, sealed. FEALTY -- Another brain burner--too much for the kids. Punched, bagged, and pristine.
Video games (come with box and inserts unless noted) Nintendo DS PROFESSOR LAYTON AND THE DIABOLICAL BOX -- Oh, it's not so diabolical when you are as smart as me. Beat this thing up down and sideways. DS Bundle -- Oh my, 15 (!) fair-to-middling DS games.
ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER
AGE OF EMPIRES - no instruction booklet
THE DARK SPIRE - price sticker on back
TOP SPIN 2 - stickered
HARRY HATSWORTH IN THE PUZZLING ADVENTURE
TRAUMA CENTER: UNDER THE KNIFE
RETRO GAME ADVENTURE
BRAIN VOYAGE - stickered
NINTENDOGS: LAB & FRIENDS
Mac/PC Games STARCRAFT BATTLE CHEST -- The whole kit-and-kaboodle. Maps and strategy guides included. I never used Battle.net on here either, the whole thing is yours. Also works on PCs, according to the system requirements AND, in a bundle, DIABLO 2 BATTLE CHEST -- Someone take this before I install it again. This has DIABLO, DIABLO 2 and D2: LORD OF DESTRUCTION. The recent patch means you don't need to have the disk in the drive anymore either. One of the best games ever. Also works on PC.
iPad Games BATTLE ACADEMY -- Guilt free! I will purchase and gift to you one (1) copy of the awesome but $20 BATTLE ACADEMY wargame for iPad. Some folks, like me, have to keep our hobby spending cash neutral. Well, here's your chance.
XBox 360 Games Xbox 360 Bundle -- If you like stuff you've probably already played, you've come to the right place.
MARVEL ULTIMATE ALLIANCE & FORZA MOTORSPORT 2 -- stickered to hell
FORZA MOTORSPORT 2 - stickered, Platinum Hits "Complete Collection Ed."
Pedro Rustico 41051 USA - Pay shipping first 10$ to anywhere on the planet.
Age of Conan - Great Condition
Memoir 44 - Great Condition
Star Wars Assault on the Death Star - Complete, Box is old
Mission Command: Air - New, just opened.
Zombie State - Great Condition
Kill Dr. Lucky - Great (Paizo Ed, v. nice)
Neuroshima Hex - Shrink
Bioshock Bundle - Bioshock and Bioshock 2 (PC)
Fallout Bundle - Fallout 3 + DLC Retail Discs (PC)
Mass Effect I & II
Lost Planet (Collectors Tin Box Extreme Edition)
Lost Planet II
PS2 Silver Slim with ~15 games, 2 sticks, extension cords & Buzz game controller
Cheech Marin Said: Mexican Americans don't like to just get into gang fights,
they like flowers and music and white girls named Debbie too.