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F:AT Arms Trading #3 -- RESULTS POSTED!
05 Oct 2009 19:51 - 29 Oct 2009 14:12 #43939
by jeb
F:AT Arms Trading #3 -- RESULTS POSTED! was created by jeb
The trade is good. The sale is evil. The sale shoots money, and makes greed to poison the Earth with a plague of dollars, as once it was, but the trade shoots warmth, and purifies the Earth of the filth of eBayers. Go forth . . . and trade!
This thread runs a "math trade"--a computer assisted algorithm to determine the best possible combination of trades so everyone ends up with games they want, even if not trading one-to-one. People will submit cryptically formatted lists to me that I throw into Zardoz, who will tell me who trades to whom at the end.
An example would be:
Jeb WANTS Klonoa for Wii and HAS War of the Ring
Barnes WANTS War of the Ring and HAS some spare change
Uba WANTS some spare change and HAS Klonoa for Wii.
Zardoz would talk about penises a lot (not kidding! See ZARDOZ!) and tell me that I should send my War of the Ring to Barnes. Barnes will send his spare change to Uba. Uba will send Klonoa to me. Everyone ends up happy.
Zardoz cares deeply for the Exterminators, and wants to assure folks that are new to these kind of trades that you can't get something back that you don't actually want, and want specifically for that item. If no one offers anything you want, just don't submit a want list for that item--it will not be traded away.
+++++ RULES +++++
You can post games you are willing to trade away immediately. To do so, in your FIRST reply to this thread: Enter your name, your location, and your games and their condition. You can edit this reply until the "closed for submission" time to add more games, but once I add the game to the master list in this post, YOU CANNOT REMOVE IT until the trades are finalized.
e.g.
GAMES FOR TRADE: Jeb Adams, 91301, USA -- I will pay the first $20 to ship everywhere.
The closed for submission time is 27 OCT 2009, 3:00 PM Los Angeles time (GMT -7 or -8 ...stupid daylight savings changes).
Want lists for each item you've added to the list are due by 28 OCT 2009, 11:00 AM PST (GMT -8). Results will be posted when Zardoz digests them and decides our collective fate.
You can submit Want Lists early, and are encouraged to do so. I will accept Want Lists via PM to my account here at F:AT . If you can't figure out how to send a PM here, you don't get to trade.
This isn't a no shipping trade. And despite the name, people from interstellar space do participate. Please state your shipping status in your Games For Trade post. THIS IS IMPORTANT. Shipping is a big deal. If you live on Arcturus, and you put a game from Spokane on your Want List, BE PREPARED TO PAY FOR A SUBSTANTIAL CHUNK OF THE COST OF HAVING GAMES SHIPPED TO YOU. If someone offers "free shipping globally!" they are going to pay a frigging fortune shipping games--that's their prerogative. On the other hand, you cannot opt out of shipping internationally. You should set an upper bound on what you're willing to spend, and chase the recipient for the extra you'll need to get it to her. ( Another way to look at it: You will pay for having games shipped to you, but many games come with a cash bonus to offset the shipping cost. )
I am the ultimate arbiter of any disputes. By signing up some games here, you are submitting to this rule. I don't care if you don't like my decision. I won't play favorites--seriously, who gives a shit? Feel free to be a huge douche and appear as the first name on the Bad Trader List .
When adding games for trade, you must describe the condition of the game, and note if anything is missing. If not noted, the game will assumed to be complete and in good condition. Also note if the game is not an English language edition. Please verify that you actually have possession of the game before adding a game to this list for trade. Seriously. Go to your garage and look at the game. Maybe rats ate some pieces or something. TAKE A LOOK. If it's a video game, note what system it's for and whether or not you have the box and manual and so forth. Lean towards being more informative rather than less. LORD OF THE RINGS is not super helpful, for example. The Knizia boardgame? Some flavor of video game? A nice set of the books? Flesh that thing out or Zardoz will send his hordes for you.
Please use the following format for your Want Lists:
(FAT_Username) Your_Game_Number : Game_wanted_#1 Game_wanted_#2 Game_wanted_#3 &c.
A possible list might look like this:
(jeb) 1 : 14 18 19
(jeb) 11 : 14 18 19 22 26 7
(jeb) 12 : 14
(jeb) 16 :
This means I have four games to trade away: 1, 11, 12 and 16. My game 16 is very dear to me and there was nothing I wanted to trade for. Oh well. Game 12 I could part with for game 14. Game 1 could go for Game 14, 18, or 19. And Game 11 I want to move along, so I'll take any of the six games listed for it.
Zardoz could use his infinite wisdom to decide thes trades, but in the interest of transparency, has opted for TradeMaximizer 1.4 to calculate things. Here are the TradeMaximizer options he'll use:
LINEAR-PRIORITIES: Use the 1,2,3,4,... priority scheme.
SMALL-STEP=1: Adjust how priorities change between successive entries in a want list. (The default value is 1.)
BIG-STEP=9: Adjust how priorities change for each semicolon in a want list. (The default value is 9.)
REQUIRE-COLONS: Make colons mandatory for every want list.
REQUIRE-USERNAMES: Make usernames mandatory for every want list.
ITERATIONS=100: If set to a number larger than 1, then use randomization to find num different solutions, keeping the solution with the best sum-of-squares metric. Note that all of the solutions will have the same number of trades and the same total cost.
If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll try to answer them quickly.
TRY TO KEEP THIS THREAD TO BUSINESS, DISCUSSION AVAILABLE IN THE BLOG.
This thread runs a "math trade"--a computer assisted algorithm to determine the best possible combination of trades so everyone ends up with games they want, even if not trading one-to-one. People will submit cryptically formatted lists to me that I throw into Zardoz, who will tell me who trades to whom at the end.
An example would be:
Jeb WANTS Klonoa for Wii and HAS War of the Ring
Barnes WANTS War of the Ring and HAS some spare change
Uba WANTS some spare change and HAS Klonoa for Wii.
Zardoz would talk about penises a lot (not kidding! See ZARDOZ!) and tell me that I should send my War of the Ring to Barnes. Barnes will send his spare change to Uba. Uba will send Klonoa to me. Everyone ends up happy.
Zardoz cares deeply for the Exterminators, and wants to assure folks that are new to these kind of trades that you can't get something back that you don't actually want, and want specifically for that item. If no one offers anything you want, just don't submit a want list for that item--it will not be traded away.
+++++ RULES +++++
You can post games you are willing to trade away immediately. To do so, in your FIRST reply to this thread: Enter your name, your location, and your games and their condition. You can edit this reply until the "closed for submission" time to add more games, but once I add the game to the master list in this post, YOU CANNOT REMOVE IT until the trades are finalized.
e.g.
GAMES FOR TRADE: Jeb Adams, 91301, USA -- I will pay the first $20 to ship everywhere.
- SPACE HULK 3rd ED, Prototype, painted by 'Eavy Metal -- Yeah right.
- LE HAVRE -- Unplayed, thank God. Throw-ins: Other shitty games.
The closed for submission time is 27 OCT 2009, 3:00 PM Los Angeles time (GMT -7 or -8 ...stupid daylight savings changes).
Want lists for each item you've added to the list are due by 28 OCT 2009, 11:00 AM PST (GMT -8). Results will be posted when Zardoz digests them and decides our collective fate.
You can submit Want Lists early, and are encouraged to do so. I will accept Want Lists via PM to my account here at F:AT . If you can't figure out how to send a PM here, you don't get to trade.
This isn't a no shipping trade. And despite the name, people from interstellar space do participate. Please state your shipping status in your Games For Trade post. THIS IS IMPORTANT. Shipping is a big deal. If you live on Arcturus, and you put a game from Spokane on your Want List, BE PREPARED TO PAY FOR A SUBSTANTIAL CHUNK OF THE COST OF HAVING GAMES SHIPPED TO YOU. If someone offers "free shipping globally!" they are going to pay a frigging fortune shipping games--that's their prerogative. On the other hand, you cannot opt out of shipping internationally. You should set an upper bound on what you're willing to spend, and chase the recipient for the extra you'll need to get it to her. ( Another way to look at it: You will pay for having games shipped to you, but many games come with a cash bonus to offset the shipping cost. )
I am the ultimate arbiter of any disputes. By signing up some games here, you are submitting to this rule. I don't care if you don't like my decision. I won't play favorites--seriously, who gives a shit? Feel free to be a huge douche and appear as the first name on the Bad Trader List .
When adding games for trade, you must describe the condition of the game, and note if anything is missing. If not noted, the game will assumed to be complete and in good condition. Also note if the game is not an English language edition. Please verify that you actually have possession of the game before adding a game to this list for trade. Seriously. Go to your garage and look at the game. Maybe rats ate some pieces or something. TAKE A LOOK. If it's a video game, note what system it's for and whether or not you have the box and manual and so forth. Lean towards being more informative rather than less. LORD OF THE RINGS is not super helpful, for example. The Knizia boardgame? Some flavor of video game? A nice set of the books? Flesh that thing out or Zardoz will send his hordes for you.
Please use the following format for your Want Lists:
(FAT_Username) Your_Game_Number : Game_wanted_#1 Game_wanted_#2 Game_wanted_#3 &c.
A possible list might look like this:
(jeb) 1 : 14 18 19
(jeb) 11 : 14 18 19 22 26 7
(jeb) 12 : 14
(jeb) 16 :
This means I have four games to trade away: 1, 11, 12 and 16. My game 16 is very dear to me and there was nothing I wanted to trade for. Oh well. Game 12 I could part with for game 14. Game 1 could go for Game 14, 18, or 19. And Game 11 I want to move along, so I'll take any of the six games listed for it.
Zardoz could use his infinite wisdom to decide thes trades, but in the interest of transparency, has opted for TradeMaximizer 1.4 to calculate things. Here are the TradeMaximizer options he'll use:
LINEAR-PRIORITIES: Use the 1,2,3,4,... priority scheme.
SMALL-STEP=1: Adjust how priorities change between successive entries in a want list. (The default value is 1.)
BIG-STEP=9: Adjust how priorities change for each semicolon in a want list. (The default value is 9.)
REQUIRE-COLONS: Make colons mandatory for every want list.
REQUIRE-USERNAMES: Make usernames mandatory for every want list.
ITERATIONS=100: If set to a number larger than 1, then use randomization to find num different solutions, keeping the solution with the best sum-of-squares metric. Note that all of the solutions will have the same number of trades and the same total cost.
If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll try to answer them quickly.
TRY TO KEEP THIS THREAD TO BUSINESS, DISCUSSION AVAILABLE IN THE BLOG.
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09 Oct 2009 14:33 #44319
by jeb
Some good shit here, folks! RAILROAD TYCOON, DOOM: TBG, undished and dished copies of FIELD COMMANDER: ALEXANDER THE GREAT. We've even got some books, DVDs, and video games on there. Put up some figurines, put up some Legos, the more the merrier! PM me if you are scared and confused by Math Trades.
Replied by jeb on topic Re:F:AT Arms Trading #3 -- Add Games until Oct 27
Some good shit here, folks! RAILROAD TYCOON, DOOM: TBG, undished and dished copies of FIELD COMMANDER: ALEXANDER THE GREAT. We've even got some books, DVDs, and video games on there. Put up some figurines, put up some Legos, the more the merrier! PM me if you are scared and confused by Math Trades.
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09 Oct 2009 14:55 #44320
by Dr. Mabuse
Replied by Dr. Mabuse on topic Re:F:AT Arms Trading #3 -- Add Games until Oct 27
For trade
First $15 covered in Canada and US. Postal Code V6P 5X9
ZOMBIE COMBIE! or ZOMBO COMBO! or SHIT I GOT NO MO' ROOM FO'!
You will get both:
Colonel America (Marvel Zombies) Bust. (I broke the girder and superglued it back on but there is a hairline crack visible.)
AND Marvel Zombies 2-Pack (San Diego Comic-Con '07 Exclusive) {Zombie Daredevil, Zombie Giant Man)
First $15 covered in Canada and US. Postal Code V6P 5X9
ZOMBIE COMBIE! or ZOMBO COMBO! or SHIT I GOT NO MO' ROOM FO'!
You will get both:
Colonel America (Marvel Zombies) Bust. (I broke the girder and superglued it back on but there is a hairline crack visible.)
AND Marvel Zombies 2-Pack (San Diego Comic-Con '07 Exclusive) {Zombie Daredevil, Zombie Giant Man)
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