What KICKSTARTER(S) are you BACKING and WHY?

I saw that a while ago. It looked like someone started goofing around with the X-Wing templates and got some ideas.

Impact! Miniatures' Roller Derby Game .

Because it looks like a fast-paced racing game with roller derby carnage, and besides really digging Elfball* I've had good experiences dealing with Impact!.


* 'Tis truly a terrible name, but the game is really solid.


EDIT: BGG turn-by-turn

Well, the Forbidden Fortress is up and...doesn't look all that great at the higher "Shogun" tier. It's an agonizing decision whether to jump on the Early Bird to save $5 off of $300 for what, so far, amounts to $85 of stuff over the base "Sumo" pledge, plus the usual KS exclusive alt-figures. The shipping information says that they intend to ship each pledge at one time- to me that reads as you don't get the game until 2018 if you go for the bigger pledge. Addons are reasonably priced, but can be got at the usual retailers in time, no doubt.

The base pledge does look decent, and I'm backing it, but if you don't care about alt-gender miniatures or one KS exclusive character class it might be better to get the game at retail when it inevitably drops to $75 or so. Still, what do I know, because the huge majority of backers are throwing $300 at the full thing.

People are likely backing that huge early bird level because of the discount, as they assume Stretch goals will add quite a bit to it. If stretch goals don't, then they can cancel their pledge at the last minute. That's the magic of the early bird, cause people to jump in which causes more funding which causes more stretch goals which makes those people attain the value they're seeking.

I'm at the Sumo level too and I think it'll be more than worth it at the end. If this rate keeps up SoB could end around $2 million.

$65 core set
$10 - 4 Alt Sculpts
$10 - Exclusive Sumo Hero
$10 - 15 card Mine Encounter Pack
$10 - 15 card Belly of the Beast Encounter Pack
$20 - XL Spider
$30 - XXL Dragon (Assuming equivalent to Beli'al)

So that's roughly $155 in value for about a $115 pledge (assuming $20 shipping). I based these prices on Miniature Market and what I feel I would actually pay to own them.

Thankfully this kickstarter won't end till after Kingdom Death starts so I can compare the two campaigns before my final decision.

charlest wrote: People are likely backing that huge early bird level because of the discount, as they assume Stretch goals will add quite a bit to it. If stretch goals don't, then they can cancel their pledge at the last minute. That's the magic of the early bird, cause people to jump in which causes more funding which causes more stretch goals which makes those people attain the value they're seeking.

The Shogun level works out at $115 for the exclusives on top of the calculated "value" of what's in there. That's the Best Case Scenario in terms of reaching stretch goals. $5 off of $300 though, it smacks of something to call that a special, especially as, the way it's written, if you back at the Shogun level, you get nothing until 2018.

ETA- they've laid out a lot of stretch goals already, so there's not currently any notion that there will be more (one SG is secret I guess), and any SGs they do add are going to surely add more production time to an already huge wait for the game. It seems clear to me that they're not going with Other Worlds with this set (the expansion is only four new temple tiles), likely because by the time Blasted Wastes and Doomed Ship come out (if those are the names) there will be a bunch ready to go.

Eh, anyway. I'm sold on the Sumo pledge.

I take the ??? graphic to mean multiple stretch goals. They just want to show the dragon so people will see something big that they can reach relatively soon. I'm thinking Jason wanted to see how fast the project would grow overnight before filling out the stretch goals between 500k and 1mill.

Yeah I think you're right. Also I did manage to read the FAQ which has this to say:

By the end of the KS Campaign, the Shogun Level Pledge will be a good value for the $300 Pledge amount. The Core Set is valued at $100, the Temple of Shadows Deluxe Expansion $80, you get the two exclusive Hero Classes, and all of the Stretch Goals (as opposed to only the fewer, lower value, tan colored 'Sumo' Stretch Goals). We estimate the final value of the Shogun Level will be between $500-$700 Retail when the campaign is complete. And that is in addition to the 2 Exclusive Heroes. For reference, the Sumo Level Pledge is estimated to reach a value of around $200-250 Retail by the campaign's end.

You can alter those "values" by changing $100 to $70, and $80 to $50 (Which is what Trederra goes for online, after I bought it for $80 direct like a doofus).

I should have checked the pledges more closely. Nobody gets anything until 2018. Jeez. Still, will probably get it before High Frontier. I guess I can spend 2017 playing Massive Darkness after all.

No one mentioning Cryptic Explorers?
www.kickstarter.com/projects/tempesttome...tics-in-the-realms-o

Cave Evil like aesthetic, sci-fi dungeon crawl full of weird. It was originally titled Necronauts in their first Kickstarter but they cancelled and re-launched without minis. Struggling unfortunately.

Ha ha! Could that possibly be more of a rip off?