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What KICKSTARTER(S) are you BACKING and WHY?
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hotseatgames wrote: I'm considering this one: Trove: The Crystal Caverns. - www.kickstarter.com/projects/2074786394/...al-caverns?ref=users
A dungeon crawl for up to 4 players but each is a different "faction" with its own goals. Knight, Dragon, Goblins, and the Cave itself. Seems very interesting, and it's only $45 thanks to it not having minis.
edit- it's up to 5 players now thanks to a stretch goal unlocking the Thief.
A major game addition as a stretch goal is sort of a red flag for me. If it's really that malleable of a design, great, but it usually indicates that the design isn't really quite done and that these additions also won't see a ton of playtesting, assuming the core was sufficiently tested. This one is going to hit retail and it's getting funded for sure so I backed out.
I also did not back due to balance concerns and unfinished design concerns. Cool ideas but going to be difficult to pull off.
Instead I backed Gloom of Kilfourth and Gloomhaven, bringing my personal Gloom rating to 100%.
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iguanaDitty wrote: Instead I backed Gloom of Kilfourth and Gloomhaven, bringing my personal Gloom rating to 100%.
I watched the video until he talked about the Boss monster, and I was done. Another one? I think there are enough games with Boss Monsters at the end that we should declare a genre -- BM games.
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charlest wrote: Except Boss Monster wouldn't fit into the Boss Monster game category.
it would still count as BM
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I suppose I can always ebay it if I don't like it.
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A friend with a rare blood disease emailed me about Gloomhaven, and included this line:
"I am not going to back this one, in part because, to be honest, I am trying not to back more expensive games that I may not be around to play. Sorry to make that sound bad. However, I thought some of you might find this quite interesting and want to get involved. If you do, bring it to game night — Hopefully I’ll still be playing with you. "
That really puts things in perspective. He's a great guy, and not just because he might die in the next few years.
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This doesn't sit well with me at all, and a lot of people agree. The letter gives an email address if you have issues with what they did, so I wrote to it 2 days ago. Still no response of course. They are likely too busy dealing with their current KS project.
Hopefully they rectify the situation in a better manner than simply telling me to print my own cards while they keep my money. I'd be surprised if I went in on another Mantic KS.
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Sadly, this game has a snowball's chance in hell of getting funded. The publisher has stated multiple times that he won't do minis unless the game makes a shitload of money and the bare bones campaign is doomed to fail. Also, if the game doesn't fund it won't get published. This isn't a preorder with KS exclusives...it's an all or nothing, "give us some money or the game doesn't get made" KS. A few years ago this might have worked, but in today's KS world I can't see this succeeding. Still people here might be interested so check it out.
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Egg Shen wrote: Sadly, this game has a snowball's chance in hell of getting funded. The publisher has stated multiple times that he won't do minis unless the game makes a shitload of money and the bare bones campaign is doomed to fail. Also, if the game doesn't fund it won't get published. This isn't a preorder with KS exclusives...it's an all or nothing, "give us some money or the game doesn't get made" KS. A few years ago this might have worked, but in today's KS world I can't see this succeeding. Still people here might be interested so check it out.
That IS a real bummer.
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Chaz wrote: Dammit, Argo is being run in exactly the way I've been wanting Kickstarter board games to be run for years now.
It's the way that fails, and to some extent for good reason. If you look at Space Cadets: Away Missions it started much the same way, back this game at a discounted price with no extras and they floundered. Everyone let them know that if there wasn't going to be exclusives they weren't going to back.
That's Kickstarter's way. Why a Laget/Faidutti design isn't just doing a simple publish is anybody's guess. They can make book on their name alone, and I'd wager many of their dependable customers don't even look at Kickstarter. I had no clue this thing existed.
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Still, I also agree that if a Faidutti/Leget can't find a publisher without KS, it's probably a bum game anyway.
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