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What KICKSTARTER(S) are you BACKING and WHY?
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SuperflyTNT wrote: Massive Darkness: Because fuck GW, and their C&D letters..
Are they sending C&D letters related to this?
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He seems to still be simmering over decisions made by the old regime.
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I'm a HARD CORE DreadBall player. Mr. White would categorize my DB obsession as a "life style" game for me. My league of six are not as hard core, but they're close. Everyone is a sports fan, we're fantasy football roster-bators, and we're super competitive against each other.
That said, we only play Ultimate once every season. It's a post season "all star" match with our six teams. As it takes longer than a normal DB game (3x longer), we make it a pot luck weekend event, starting at 11am. We're drunk by 11:30, and the game wraps around 4. We dig it, and we'll keep playing it. But it is an EVENT. No one goes to league night and suggests, "Hey! Why don't we play Ultimate tonight?"
We own two copies of DreadBall Xtreme and the "Xpansion," but we haven't tapped it. I've played it a few times, it's neat and there's a lot to do - we just haven't had the time to fully explore it. We're having too much fun with DreadBall "Original." Consider Xtreme to be the Blood Bowl equivalency of Dungeon Bowl. Kind of. Like DBO, Xtreme definitely rewards league play. The big shift is this: instead of building up individual players, you develop your sponsor. Your sponsor places bets, makes threats, and buys new players dependent on personality types/tropes. You buy a lot of players because they die. A lot.
As far as this new DreadBall Kickstater - it has warts. However, it's chugging along and I'm confident the end product will be pretty dope. The neat thing about this "DB2" is that both DreadBall and Ultimate will be in the same box. The value for the buy-in is getting better and better (albeit slowly). I'd suggest keeping a sharp eye on this one.
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Mr. White wrote: No. They play nice now.
He seems to still be simmering over decisions made by the old regime.
There was a DAKKADAKKA post of them doing it as late as January of this year.
But yes, I am still of the mind that any company that aggressively acts as a hostile party to its fans is not worthy of my money.
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I was checking out the kickstarter (I'm drawn to football like a duck to water) again and see that you can now add optional teams at $25/team. Do you Dreadball players feel like this is good value? I also saw you could get all of the teams for $850 -- but there seems to be a shitload of teams.
As it turns out, I just picked up a consulting job for a small law firm in Iowa that would pay for a nice Dreadball pledge with several teams added on (probably not all, but enough that I could supply all the teams for a league that would be made up of family/friends), so now I am considering it more seriously. What are the essentials they are offering?
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DB2 looks to (hopefully) contain at least three teams. The balance of all the previous teams is supposed to be addressed in 2e, so I can't recommend one over the other based on1e experiences. Perhaps choose some that will be easy to paint or you enjoy the aesthetic of. I don't know how many you expect in your league, but 8-10 seems like a good number of teams to give you some variety. I can speak a little more to specific playstyles if you have questions, but obviously the human (corporation) and orcs (orx) are going to be the basic playing teams.
The teams themselves are priced at about the current retail price, _but_ they will contain a captain figure which current teams do not, so this price is going to end up being a better deal.
You'll want the club pack add-on which is three more boards and all the fixins you need, so, with the base set, you'll wind up with 4 playable tables = 8 players. That combo is a great deal.
I just posted some few team pictures in the 'what minis are you painting' thread. It's ok to look.
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I share similar thoughts to Mr. White.
League pack is a must for your proposal. Good value too.
If you have particular play styles, I'm happy to offer suggestions.
The $25 team + captain is pretty darn good. Especially when you consider that Mantic products are not always the easiest to find on this side of the pond.
If things can pick up in the next week, that Striker pledge will develop into a four team bundle. Robots, Space Cats, Sumo Lizards, and some sort of Cyborg team are drafted and ready to drop (with mo' money).
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There's enough kickstarter exclusives that you could probably flip it for more than you payed if you didn't like the game.
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Wetworks wrote: Rahdo and Undead Viking also gave positive reviews for it.
I don't do much KS, but I've noticed that you can say this about nearly every one I've looked at, especially Undead Viking. Do these guys actually hold any weight? There's not much I can do with a reviewer who seems to be this guy:
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Wetworks wrote: Rahdo and Undead Viking also gave positive reviews for it.
I don't do much KS, but I've noticed that you can say this about nearly every one I've looked at, especially Undead Viking. Do these guys actually hold any weight? There's not much I can do with a reviewer who seems to be this guy:
I think the main reason their reviews seem positive is they usually only review things they like. Rhado says that he turns down 80% of games that ask for reviews and only accepts games that he thinks him and his wife will like.
Undead Viking is not afraid to voice his opinion, he hates plenty of games. For instance he doesn't classify Time Stories as a game, and he was the only reviewer that talked trash about Pathfinder the Adventure Card Game saying it was nothing but flip a card, roll a dice. (around the time of the Gencon release when every other reviewer said it was a great game.)
The big thing is with kickstarters it really helps if you can get a couple of well known reviewers to vouch for the mechanics of the game.
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