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What TV SHOWS are you watching?
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27 Oct 2016 13:42 #237053
by ChristopherMD
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Two episodes into season 3 of Black Mirror and not digging it so far. Not sure what the point of Episode 1 was since I thought she had a shitty life before and after her ratings dropped. Also seemed to drag on a bit too long. Episode 2 I didn't even finish. I found the main character to be pretty annoying and the rest was just boring. Will continue watching the season but its dropped from a must-see to a whenever I get around to it.
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27 Oct 2016 13:59 - 27 Oct 2016 14:07 #237054
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You're more astute than I. I took the kid's experience at face-value, but should have known there was more to it (and there were clues). I thought it was clever, but a one-time watch, whereas something like "San Junipero" really was transcendent. That, "Fifteen Million Merits" and "White Christmas" are the best ones. Even if only a few hit that level, that's enough to keep me watching them all.
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Michael Barnes wrote: San Junipero was an amazing piece of television. I think it might be the best episode of Black Mirror. It's definitely different, but the tone, acting, themes and concept are just incredible. I cried.
It's also the ONLY episode I've watched where I didn't have it sorted out halfway through the episode. I didn't know what the hell was going on- VR, time travel, quantum interpolation...the coda at the end was at once utterly chilling and full of unspoken wonder.
The episode before was ok, but I pretty much knew exactly what was going on from when the kid had a wank.
You're more astute than I. I took the kid's experience at face-value, but should have known there was more to it (and there were clues). I thought it was clever, but a one-time watch, whereas something like "San Junipero" really was transcendent. That, "Fifteen Million Merits" and "White Christmas" are the best ones. Even if only a few hit that level, that's enough to keep me watching them all.
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27 Oct 2016 14:09 #237055
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I am almost 100% positive the song is called - You're Gonna Have a Bad Time
awesome tune...
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The kids can't get enough David Pumpkins. I can't seem to find the music anywhere...the boy wants to play it on his keyboard. I'm surprised it's not out there.
I am almost 100% positive the song is called - You're Gonna Have a Bad Time
awesome tune...
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27 Oct 2016 17:24 #237065
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I can't get San Junipero out my head. Especially with that song at the end. I think my mind was actually blown.
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28 Oct 2016 01:41 #237090
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I have not laughed at (let alone watched) an SNL skit in...20 years? But that David Pumpkins thing is hilarious.
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28 Oct 2016 07:24 #237093
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San Junipero was the highlight of the whole series.
About the music:
Also agreed on David Pumpkins. I roll my eyes when Americans talk about SNL but that was genuinely funny.
About the music:
Warning: Spoiler!
It was painfully on the nose and gave away a lot, Girlfriend in a Coma, indeed; but that just made it all the more enjoyable for me.
Also agreed on David Pumpkins. I roll my eyes when Americans talk about SNL but that was genuinely funny.
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28 Oct 2016 08:05 - 28 Oct 2016 08:51 #237096
by Mr. White
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I've seen two episodes...Nosedive and now San Junipero.
Besides the music, also the movie posters and videogames.
Anyway...
I actually had this one mostly figured out about half-way through. A few years back I was reading up on Singularity scenarios and this was one of them. The episode was a fine introduction to the concept, but at this point I want to know more about the particulars. Who funds this set-up for individuals or is it a right for everyone to have the option to upload cost free? Does a consequence free 'eternity' mean individuals may go darker and darker looking for thrills and new experiences...thus ending up in places like Quagmire? I felt like the show sort of alluded to that. I've long thought I'd opt to not get uploaded as I'm a bit of a romantic, particularly if my children had already passed prior to. Plus, even being uploaded to a machine isn't going to last forever. But, this was interesting to revisit and think about.
I did like that the romantic leads were female, yet being in a homosexual relationship wasn't really trotted out as the point at all. This could have been a heterosexual couple and nothing would have been lost. Also, for Yorkie being inside TCKR or 'Tucker' was essentially her first go at life given what happened to her in the meat.
Good episode though. Ranks up there with classic Twilight Zones for me.
Nosedive, though, may have more impact on my immediate future. My FB usage has dropped considerably over the past several months. I mainly use it for some communities of interest and less for 'listening in on' the lives of people I may have once come across. My wife has already pretty much gotten off and I'm considering maybe cutting my list down to like 25 people. Just a small group that I'm actually close to...sort of like an open email or text chain. I do like that photos I've uploaded are all sorted and easy to review...much more so than the digital mess that is our real photo archive... And, like I said, I do enjoy being part of some of the hobby communities. That and I'm looking to start up a side business in my physical community in the near future and the FB page for our neighborhood will be instrumental in its launch.
Besides the music, also the movie posters and videogames.
Anyway...
Warning: Spoiler!
I actually had this one mostly figured out about half-way through. A few years back I was reading up on Singularity scenarios and this was one of them. The episode was a fine introduction to the concept, but at this point I want to know more about the particulars. Who funds this set-up for individuals or is it a right for everyone to have the option to upload cost free? Does a consequence free 'eternity' mean individuals may go darker and darker looking for thrills and new experiences...thus ending up in places like Quagmire? I felt like the show sort of alluded to that. I've long thought I'd opt to not get uploaded as I'm a bit of a romantic, particularly if my children had already passed prior to. Plus, even being uploaded to a machine isn't going to last forever. But, this was interesting to revisit and think about.
I did like that the romantic leads were female, yet being in a homosexual relationship wasn't really trotted out as the point at all. This could have been a heterosexual couple and nothing would have been lost. Also, for Yorkie being inside TCKR or 'Tucker' was essentially her first go at life given what happened to her in the meat.
Good episode though. Ranks up there with classic Twilight Zones for me.
Nosedive, though, may have more impact on my immediate future. My FB usage has dropped considerably over the past several months. I mainly use it for some communities of interest and less for 'listening in on' the lives of people I may have once come across. My wife has already pretty much gotten off and I'm considering maybe cutting my list down to like 25 people. Just a small group that I'm actually close to...sort of like an open email or text chain. I do like that photos I've uploaded are all sorted and easy to review...much more so than the digital mess that is our real photo archive... And, like I said, I do enjoy being part of some of the hobby communities. That and I'm looking to start up a side business in my physical community in the near future and the FB page for our neighborhood will be instrumental in its launch.
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28 Oct 2016 09:35 #237101
by JEM
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If I had to pin down the main reason I enjoyed San Junipero more than the others, it's because it has an emotional heart that the others seem to entirely lack. Most of the episodes take the formula of "current technology + X = horror", and you'll witness some hapless protagonist experiencing some discomfort/terror/pain/whatever but it's just kind of plot lego, it all fits to let the story play out as expected. The one with the soldiers was a case in point, it has something to say, but mostly says it in the first few minutes if you're paying attention/expecting the typical Black Mirror angle and the rest is just going through the motions.
Not that SJ was perfect either, because the core philosophical debate over the whole premise was covered mostly in one conversation.
Not that SJ was perfect either, because the core philosophical debate over the whole premise was covered mostly in one conversation.
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28 Oct 2016 10:02 #237104
by Mr. White
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So, I've only seen two episodes and I understand they are on the lighter end of the show's spectrum. I've enjoyed them quite a bit, but do understand the rest are, like JEM says, 'technology +x = horror'. I wonder if the formula will get old? I'll probably try a few more to find out. Maybe finish out season 3 and decide if I want to go back to the earlier ones.
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28 Oct 2016 12:36 - 28 Oct 2016 12:50 #237128
by Mr. White
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San Juniper thoughts left out of previous post:
Also, I guess it's possible that TCKR created Kelly for Yorkie. I mean, if the system creates these heavenly eras for its occupants...whose to know which people are 'souls/consciences' vs program AIs? I mean was the bartender at Tuckers or other service workers programs run by TCKR to serve the occupants? Then it's possible that TCKR could also create a Kelly entity for Yorkie's pleasure.
And what about glitches? Does the TCKR system have a backup of these consciences in the case of a power failure/virus/some other event? Would these people then have two consciences about?
I know these thoughts ultimately don't matter for the show as it takes a layman's approach to tell a charming tale. Still, as a possible direction some want us to head into, these other points are worth thinking about.
Warning: Spoiler!
Also, I guess it's possible that TCKR created Kelly for Yorkie. I mean, if the system creates these heavenly eras for its occupants...whose to know which people are 'souls/consciences' vs program AIs? I mean was the bartender at Tuckers or other service workers programs run by TCKR to serve the occupants? Then it's possible that TCKR could also create a Kelly entity for Yorkie's pleasure.
And what about glitches? Does the TCKR system have a backup of these consciences in the case of a power failure/virus/some other event? Would these people then have two consciences about?
I know these thoughts ultimately don't matter for the show as it takes a layman's approach to tell a charming tale. Still, as a possible direction some want us to head into, these other points are worth thinking about.
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