Am I just misremembering a bed in that room? Admittedly, it has been six years since I last read GoT (right before Feast came out.)

Jackwraith wrote:


You must be misremembering. I just read GoT about two weeks ago and it is in an abandoned part of the castle. Bran is surprised to hear voices because no one but him is there and then peeks in on the speakers.

It was certainly a tower - if it was their bedroom it would have been a bit obvious to all what happened when Bran's body is lying under it's window.
I liked the way the push was done, it emphasised more than the book that it was an act Jamie put little thought into, which becomes important later on.

I still say Tyrion's intro is MUCH more true to character here than in the book. He has been riding for a month, so it makes more sense that he would go to the Whorehouse over the Library (I'm sure he was reading plenty on the road.) In fact is the Imp's weaknesses (drink and pussy) even mentioned in book one? I'm certain the whoreing kind of comes out of left field. This intro makes the Shae stuff in book 3 makes a lot more sense, since it establishes his weakness for women from the outset.
The book instead introduces us to Tyrion via an actobatic tumble (which is a massive gaff that I have no idea how it made it through the rewriting process) and that he is very smart and loves books. Then he goes to the wall and we learn more of the same about him. In hindsight it seems that when the early chapters were written Martin was still developing the character, since his vices aren't really developed until he gets back to kings landing (and thus come a bit out of left field.)
Here the imp is introduced as a floppish, horny drunkard. Which is how much of Westeros sees him. I'm assuming we will be introduced to the imps intelectual side (which was mentioned in the episode with the 'candles' bit but not shown) at the wall. A better introduction methinks.

There are a few other areas in the ep where you can see they have tweeked the charcaters due to hindsite to better fit what comes later.

RE Children's age, it's both so you can use older actors, and because if rewritten Martin says he would have started the children as being older. Originally there was supposed to be a 7 year gap between books 3 and 4, but Martin ditched it because he couldn't get it to work. This means that apparently some of the things the kids will do in the later books they will be a bit young for but there is not much he can do about it. The children read as older then it's said they are anyway (especially Rickon).

Not THEIR bedroom; a bedroom. Something not conveyed very well by the show is that Winterfell is a sprawling castle, as well as a town, and there are many relatively unused parts of it. As I recall, it was precisely one of those that Cersei and Jaime were using. But, again, it's been a while.

He definitely touches on the Imp's weaknesses in the first book because the story about Tyrion falling in love with the whore and then finding out she was paid for by Jaime is in there.

I remember him mentioning the gap between SoS and Feast/Dance. He trashed most of what he had written because he said he spent too much time doing flashbacks.

Jackwraith wrote:


You could be right, but even if it was a 'bedroom' I doubt it would have had clean linnen and shit like that since it was abandoned. From memory isaren't the leaning against a wall while he is fingering her (at least thats how I understood Bran's description)?



Yes that's there, but I don't recal Tyrion doing any of that outside of a flashback in book one. He certainly becomes a heavy drinker in 2.



There was also logistic problems, such as the siege at Dragonstone having to run for an unrealistic 7 years.

Pretty, especially the wall. I liked the casting. A little dull, but then so much has happened in the books.

RE: Tyrion in Book 1 (SPOILERS if you haven't read the first book and later)

After he's freed from the Eyrie and joins his father's army at the crossroads inn with a bunch of his wild men, he spends quite a bit of time whoring. He has his merc find him a suitable one (Shae), and won't leave her except on his father's bidding. After the battle, his father sends him to King's Landing to act as King's Hand and tells him to leave the whore behind.

BTW most of the Shae stuff is in book 2, as in book 3 Tyrion spends most of his time in bed or in a cell in between his trial.




BTW, Season 2's a go.

I'm a sucker for a good title sequence, and GoT had that in spades for me.

Everything seemed pretty well done, though I need to catch the last ten minutes or so again because something came up while I was watching.

Another great episode last night; this has quickly become my current, favorite TV show. I looked for the Game of Thrones novel while at Costco over the weekend, but they didn't carry it. In a way I'm actually glad that I can approach the series with a clean slate and no pre-conceived notions or expectations from having read the book(s).

I enjoyed the second episde even more than the first. Cersei is perfect. Very happy this is turning out as well as it is because I had some serious doubts.