[quote="Chapel" post=99913]Jeff White wrote:


I rather liked the steampunk slant of Sherlock Holmes with the martial arts angle thrown in.

Two words: Fuck Yeah.

That is what Conan is about. thanks, Loter!

I think if nothing else, it's a huge sign of improvement that we can now argue about the merits of what's going on with this. Much better than the universal disapproval and embarrassment we had with the first trailer.

You know Conan was a bad-ass in the books but he was always smart too. Had he hidden and gotten the drop on these guys one or two at a time it would have shown the cunning aspect without taking away from the fight, would have made more sense and shown a more interesting character.

They blew the egg thing. He should have just walked on by the Chief, empty handed and all bloody and bruised saying, "I dropped the egg." The Chief turning away from everyone and smiling his ass off would have been priceless, funny as hell and painted a picture of Conan's greatness even at a young age.

Still, compare this to the John Carter trailer that looks like it was done on a $5000 budget. At least these guys tried.

S.

What I really want is action scenes with random slow motion and rotating camera array shots while "Down with the Sickness" plays. Man that'd be sweeeeet.

1 unarmed kid. 4 armed season warriors.
You can spin it any way you want but I have never come across a howard story that fucking absurd. Your example comes no where close.



You mean the tower of the elephant story where he was ARMED? And Snuck in? And shit himself when he bumped into lions?
If that story went through these movie writers (based on the trailer) he would have ripped out the front door with his bare hands, strode in and killed all the guards with a wooden spoon because he is a 'bad ass'.




Milius understood the spirit of Howard and Conan far better than the majority of nerd nation does. Just because he gave him an origin story (which this film is now doing as well) doesn't mean it wasn't faithful.
Look at he openings.
Here we have some douchebag explaining what a pack of bad asses they all are. "We must be fearless blah blah." I hate this self aware rubbish, no one speaks like that.
Milius has Conan sit with his father, who tells him of crom the asshole god he worships, and of trusting no one but your sword arm (not man, not woman, not beast - this you can trust!) and the riddle of steel. You can tell this kid is going to grow up pure iron just from that quiet, NATURAL scene alone. No utterly absurd superman fight. No self aware "look son, you are going to be a bad ass" dialouge.
Fuck, I'm getting chills just thinking about that film.
The dead king 'handing' Conan his sword. The tree of Woe. His mother's beheading. "He doesn't cry, so I cry for him." My balls that's not a character straight out of the short stories. Arnolds prayer at the end alone is the greatest summation of Conan that has ever been written.

Flesh is weak - the mind is strong. That's Conan. Not taking on 4 mowhawk men with exploding blood without swallowing an egg. Crom that scene gets dumber every time I think about it.

And I was rooting for Momma too.

Much better than the first trailer, but I also noticed the exploding fake blood nonsense.

If the first trailer hadn't existed this second one would have me optimistic about a decent flick in the making. Right now I would just hope that they cut all the scenes of Conan as an adult because those are going to be gawd-awful.

The first movie was a classic. This won't be remembered past the opening week.