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Just saw John Carter...

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12 Mar 2012 21:54 #119034 by Sagrilarus

Black Barney wrote: I was also discussing the marketing and ONLY the marketing but my comment was maybe too cloaked for people to see its real meaning?


Yeah that's it Barney. You were too cunning for the rest of us to keep up.
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12 Mar 2012 22:51 #119041 by lfisher
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At least it made 70M overseas. I wonder how it was marketed over there.

Yeah Barney, if that was your impression from the marketing, that's a big part of the problem right there.

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12 Mar 2012 23:10 #119043 by mikecl
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Well I saw it on the weekend and it's ok. There IS probably 250 million worth of special effects and it's an epic story told on a grand scale BUT it's souless. It fails because you don't care about the characters. The only emotional attachment I felt was to that big 'ol alien puppy dog.

I couldn't have cared less about anyone else. It's dazzling eye candy though and that alone made me take another look at the old 1979 SPI board game John Carter: Warlord of Mars. What's that you say?! A-NOTHER board game from that era that only produced war and fantasy games!!! Why there seems to be more every day from the golden age of gaming.

I can't say the cardboard chits and paper map hold up well today though :-p.
So to recap....John Carter: wonderful eye candy with a poorly realized paper thin plot and souless characters = box office bomb.

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12 Mar 2012 23:19 #119044 by lfisher
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wonderful eye candy with a poorly realized paper thin plot and souless characters = box office bomb.


Except isn't this the formula for almost all blockbusters??
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12 Mar 2012 23:46 #119049 by mikecl
Replied by mikecl on topic Re: Just saw John Carter...

lfisher wrote:

wonderful eye candy with a poorly realized paper thin plot and souless characters = box office bomb.

Except isn't this the formula for almost all blockbusters??

Absolutely! But it has to fix at least one of those two things. Usually it can get away with the paper thin plot. It's the souless characters that's the real killer...although as H.L. Mencken observed, "no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."

I'm sure he meant Canadians too...or DID he?

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12 Mar 2012 23:51 #119051 by Notahandle
Sagrilarus wrote:
" Yeah that's it Barney. You were too cunning for the rest of us to keep up."
HOLY SHIT! Is Barney a descendant of Baldrick?
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13 Mar 2012 02:46 #119072 by Mr. White
Regarding marketing, yeah, Disney dropped the ball.

I would guess that modern audiences have no idea who John Carter is. I mean, the only folks reading/have read Princess of Mars are old people (_really_ old) or nerds that like old stuff.

There's nothing here for modern fans. Tolkien was/is very much relevant when LotR came out.

So why didn't Disney build that bridge with the audience? Where was the "From the creator of Tarzan, and director of Finding Nemo and Wall*E, comes a story 100 years in the making..." or some tripe. They would have dropped some familiar names and made this thing feel like an event.

Instead...I dunno what they did...only saw a few trailers on the net, but none mentioned the movie's pedigree.

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13 Mar 2012 03:12 - 13 Mar 2012 03:13 #119074 by Mr. White
I get out to see one or two movies a year, and for some reason in the matter of days, I find myself consuming reviews and thoughts on this movie. A movie I hadn't thought much of a few weeks ago.

F:ATties here are giving it good press and I'm sold on this article about classic adventure films as well as the same guy's review .

Maybe I'm dumb, but I'm looking forward to this one more than I thought.
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13 Mar 2012 05:39 #119084 by Not Sure
A work friend of mine went to see it, and really enjoyed it.

He didn't exactly go in blind or unaware, his first daughter is "Dejah Thoris Lastname".

High marks from him, take that as you will. Man, the marketing sucks. I agree with Jeff's post about playing up the pedigree.

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