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Just saw John Carter...
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Black Barney wrote: I was also discussing the marketing and ONLY the marketing but my comment was maybe too cloaked for people to see its real meaning?
Yeah that's it Barney. You were too cunning for the rest of us to keep up.
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Yeah Barney, if that was your impression from the marketing, that's a big part of the problem right there.
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I couldn't have cared less about anyone else. It's dazzling eye candy though and that alone made me take another look at the old 1979 SPI board game John Carter: Warlord of Mars. What's that you say?! A-NOTHER board game from that era that only produced war and fantasy games!!! Why there seems to be more every day from the golden age of gaming.
I can't say the cardboard chits and paper map hold up well today though :-p.
So to recap....John Carter: wonderful eye candy with a poorly realized paper thin plot and souless characters = box office bomb.
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wonderful eye candy with a poorly realized paper thin plot and souless characters = box office bomb.
Except isn't this the formula for almost all blockbusters??
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Absolutely! But it has to fix at least one of those two things. Usually it can get away with the paper thin plot. It's the souless characters that's the real killer...although as H.L. Mencken observed, "no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."lfisher wrote:
Except isn't this the formula for almost all blockbusters??wonderful eye candy with a poorly realized paper thin plot and souless characters = box office bomb.
I'm sure he meant Canadians too...or DID he?
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I would guess that modern audiences have no idea who John Carter is. I mean, the only folks reading/have read Princess of Mars are old people (_really_ old) or nerds that like old stuff.
There's nothing here for modern fans. Tolkien was/is very much relevant when LotR came out.
So why didn't Disney build that bridge with the audience? Where was the "From the creator of Tarzan, and director of Finding Nemo and Wall*E, comes a story 100 years in the making..." or some tripe. They would have dropped some familiar names and made this thing feel like an event.
Instead...I dunno what they did...only saw a few trailers on the net, but none mentioned the movie's pedigree.
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F:ATties here are giving it good press and I'm sold on this article about classic adventure films as well as the same guy's review .
Maybe I'm dumb, but I'm looking forward to this one more than I thought.
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He didn't exactly go in blind or unaware, his first daughter is "Dejah Thoris Lastname".
High marks from him, take that as you will. Man, the marketing sucks. I agree with Jeff's post about playing up the pedigree.
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