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Just saw John Carter...
Jeff White wrote: I know it's pg-13, but how appropriate is it for a 5 year old? Would I be pushing it?
There was a mom and son who looked to be about that age in the audience when my wife and I saw it yesterday and he seemed to handle it ok.
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Black Barney wrote: that movie is for dumb people
Why do you feel that way?
For me, this is what movies are for. The Help or the Kings Speech might be good films but I can see those type of films on tv. John Carter, Avengers, these are films that are mnade for the big screens.
At least that is how I see it nowadays - as opposed to 30-35 years ago when any genre film was potentially worthy and fun to see in theaters.
With my dwindling time and other concerns, I think action films and their ilk are best suited for movie theaters. All else can be seen on a smaller screen with no loss of enjoyment.
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One thing about John Carter is that it seemed like Disney took all the cheesy sword-and-sandal movies from the 60s and remade them as a superior action flick. Good script, the acting was good enough, all in all a great genre action movie that didn't drag and didn't leave me thinking any part of it was stupid. I went into it not knowing anything about John Carter besides seeing Frazetta's paintings. Now I might have to read the ERB book.
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What made me dread the movie release and generally colors my view of films and other media, in general, these days is something that's hard to define but what I usually chalk up to "lack of vision." If you're going to tell me a story, make sure that the story is interesting and well told. That means plotting, scripting, and acting. No one wants to hear a joke in a monotone or rushed when most jokes are about timing and delivery, right? Same with movies. Give me a story well told, not just one gussied up with the latest CGI and delivered as spectacle. I've seen spectacle. I've seen or read most stories under the sun (I can't read superhero comics anymore because they're all identical to stuff I read 30 years ago.) Give me a story that will keep me thinking when I leave the theater. Movies like The King's Speech and The Descendants do that. Spectacle like the vast majority of fantasy/SF material frequently doesn't.
I guess I'm just too cynical to be impressed with the fireworks on the big screen anymore, although I can certainly understand Zev's perspective as movies more as escapism than challenging. I suppose it depends on what you want to get out of it.
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I think there is GOOD action, there is GREAT action and there is action for dumb people. John Carter strikes me as the latter. It is no Bourne Ultimatum, Casino Royale, umm... Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. All of those were great action movies and you could TELL they were good. i can tell that John Carter will have a bad script, bad characters and just a bunch of awesome beautiful effects and that's it.
It's probably a pass (like a 2.5 star movie) but that's it. No one will talk about it a month from now nor ever again.
John Carter was on the big screen for less than 2 hours and cost $250 million to make. I dare filmmakers to do better.
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Stanton, at least, dreamed his whole life of this.
So I don't think the intention was to have it for "dumb people", though I guess some might argue that that was also ERB's intention.
Of course the result may not match the intention.
I don't particularly think much of bourne/MI either, personally.
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Black Barney wrote: I think there is GOOD action, there is GREAT action and there is action for dumb people. John Carter strikes me as the latter. It is no Bourne Ultimatum, Casino Royale, umm... Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. All of those were great action movies and you could TELL they were good. i can tell that John Carter will have a bad script, bad characters and just a bunch of awesome beautiful effects and that's it.
Honestly Barney, without having seen the film that comes off as . . . well . . . kind of stupid. Pirates of the Caribbean was deemed to stupidest film idea of all time until it came out, and then everyone who had looked down their nose at it looked ridiculous.
Have you seen John Carter?
S.
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Black Barney wrote: I dunno, I don't mean that John Carter is for dumb people and The King's Speech and Winter's Bone aren't, I'm not comparing John Carter to those cuz then I would be saying action movies or sci-fi is for dumb people and I don't think that.
I think there is GOOD action, there is GREAT action and there is action for dumb people. John Carter strikes me as the latter. It is no Bourne Ultimatum, Casino Royale, umm... Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. All of those were great action movies and you could TELL they were good. i can tell that John Carter will have a bad script, bad characters and just a bunch of awesome beautiful effects and that's it.
It's probably a pass (like a 2.5 star movie) but that's it. No one will talk about it a month from now nor ever again.
John Carter was on the big screen for less than 2 hours and cost $250 million to make. I dare filmmakers to do better.
This post is for dumb people.
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Sagrilarus wrote:
Black Barney wrote: I think there is GOOD action, there is GREAT action and there is action for dumb people. John Carter strikes me as the latter. It is no Bourne Ultimatum, Casino Royale, umm... Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. All of those were great action movies and you could TELL they were good. i can tell that John Carter will have a bad script, bad characters and just a bunch of awesome beautiful effects and that's it.
Honestly Barney, without having seen the film that comes off as . . . well . . . kind of stupid. Pirates of the Caribbean was deemed to stupidest film idea of all time until it came out, and then everyone who had looked down their nose at it looked ridiculous.
Have you seen John Carter?
S.
He hasn't seen it, since he wasn't aware the film goes for well over 2 hours.
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Going to check it out this week though. Is it worth it in 3D or should I look for a 2D option?
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" He hasn't seen it, since he wasn't aware the film goes for well over 2 hours."
Maybe he fell asleep and was only awake for the "less than 2 hours"? Barney, you didn't fall asleep did you? Tell us it isn't so!
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Makes me want another Gor movie though, hard R rating
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dysjunct wrote: I liked it. Really entertaining. I liked that Dejah isn't some shrinking violet but actually has skills and things to do.
Speaking of which this was the first romance story in one of these kinds of flicks that actually worked for me in ages.
I liked the fact that you could tell they dug each other from the moment they first laid eyes. He's buff, she's hot, it makes sense they are going to want to fuck. The writes avoided having them 'hate' each other at the start before finally falling in love like most other nerd films do.
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