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Star Wars Trailer #2 ---Nerd Critics Vaporized!
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- I know we’ve only seen about four minutes worth of footage, but god damn, what a difference it makes already having someone who grew up loving Star Wars making this movie instead of someone who has spent the last thirty years resenting it while cashing checks.
- Crashed Star Destroyer- holy shit, what an unexpected way to open. Totally in line with the marketing- show something familiar, show something new.
- Luke’s v/o is actually from Jedi…but that is definitely him with R2 (first point at which I welled up)
- Vader’s skull- HOLY SHIT. So important that Vader’s presence is felt in this film. And look, there’s his lightsaber…which I bet is being handed to Leia by Rey.
- Kylo Ren looks awesome, he looks a lot like Darth Revan from KOTOR. I _hope_ he doesn’t turn out to be this picture’s Darth Maul.
- New TIEs- notice the white panels?
- New stormtrooper armor- god, it looks bad ass. Totally in line with the original, but modernized both in our world and in the SW world. It’s important to remember that the armor was always changing from the original clone design up to the “classic” style, so it makes sense that it continues on. The chrome stormtrooper is a woman, I bet.
- BB8 is AMAZING. That shot of him peeking around the corner is SPOT ON with some of the warm little touches that Irvin Kershner brought to Empire- think back to R2 standing on his tippy toes.
- Notice that the ship that the Falcon flies into appears to be a Super Star Destroyer- not the one at the beginning. And also note that the SD the shuttle flies to is a different design.
- X-Wing shot- god damn it, I could watch that all day. Perfectly edited with Oscar Isaac expressing what everyone watching is feeling.
- Han and Chewie- I am not going to lie, I totally cried. Chewie is still rockin’ the bowcaster too.
About the Stormtroopers...I thought all nerds knew that the Empire stopped using the clones before the Rebellion era. As for their armor...well, it probably costs less to outfit a Stormtrooper than it does to train and feed one, so if it stops a blaster shot one time out of three there's a cost savings there.
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Michael Barnes wrote: OK, I’ve had some time to adjust to living in a world where you can see Han Solo and Chewbacca together again…I’ve also stopped nerd-crying, so I can unpack some thoughts now:
- I know we’ve only seen about four minutes worth of footage, but god damn, what a difference it makes already having someone who grew up loving Star Wars making this movie instead of someone who has spent the last thirty years resenting it while cashing checks.
- Crashed Star Destroyer- holy shit, what an unexpected way to open. Totally in line with the marketing- show something familiar, show something new.
- Luke’s v/o is actually from Jedi…but that is definitely him with R2 (first point at which I welled up)
- Vader’s skull- HOLY SHIT. So important that Vader’s presence is felt in this film. And look, there’s his lightsaber…which I bet is being handed to Leia by Rey.
- Kylo Ren looks awesome, he looks a lot like Darth Revan from KOTOR. I _hope_ he doesn’t turn out to be this picture’s Darth Maul.
- New TIEs- notice the white panels?
- New stormtrooper armor- god, it looks bad ass. Totally in line with the original, but modernized both in our world and in the SW world. It’s important to remember that the armor was always changing from the original clone design up to the “classic” style, so it makes sense that it continues on. The chrome stormtrooper is a woman, I bet.
- BB8 is AMAZING. That shot of him peeking around the corner is SPOT ON with some of the warm little touches that Irvin Kershner brought to Empire- think back to R2 standing on his tippy toes.
- Notice that the ship that the Falcon flies into appears to be a Super Star Destroyer- not the one at the beginning. And also note that the SD the shuttle flies to is a different design.
- X-Wing shot- god damn it, I could watch that all day. Perfectly edited with Oscar Isaac expressing what everyone watching is feeling.
- Han and Chewie- I am not going to lie, I totally cried. Chewie is still rockin’ the bowcaster too.
About the Stormtroopers...I thought all nerds knew that the Empire stopped using the clones before the Rebellion era. As for their armor...well, it probably costs less to outfit a Stormtrooper than it does to train and feed one, so if it stops a blaster shot one time out of three there's a cost savings there.
Is it sad if I welled up reading this? Cuz I did.
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It's genuine, but damn it's nerdy as hell.
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Barnes, are you sure Luke's v/o is from Jedi? I recognize some of the lines but it really sounds like modern-day Mark Hamill. And some of the words are different I thought.
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I liked the trailer overall, but I still have my misgivings. Abrams is good, but he's too referential for my tastes.
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charlest wrote: The words are different, it's of course influenced by those RoJ lines but he's speaking to his son/daughter?
Yeah, that ain't the same dialog from Return of the Jedi, but it's close. And damn if Mark Hamill is not one awesome voice actor. At first I thought it was another character/actor delivering the lines but then you hear hints of Luke in there. I never realized Hamill had a Luke voice and always assumed that was his natural speaking voice. That voice over more than anything has me stoked to see what this new tale is about.
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I didn't get to finish my thought earlier but yeah, I don't see them getting the rights to grab voice dialogue from ROTJ to use in this movie. I don't know if that's an automatic thing when Disney got the rights but I think they'd prefer Mark Hamill giving a modern-day performance on those lines since they have him anyway.
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I'm cautiously optimistic that the movie is as back-to-basics gritty and lived-in as the trailers make it look and that TIE hangar shoot 'em up was awesome. I'm predicting that's the moment when the stormtrooper goes AWOL.
When I watch this trailer I also like to pretend that the downed Star Destroyer is Abrams' visual metaphor for what Lucas did to the franchise with the prequels.
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They also revealed that it's the First Order versus the Resistance this time. Interesting...
Now, after watching the trailer 100 times or so, I actually think that between it and the little bits of reveals here and there (without looking at actual spoilers, rumors, theories or whatever) it actually shows too much! I think I can piece together at least 75% of the story. Spoilers, obviously, if you don't want to discuss ahead of release.
But you see, Luke hasn't been seen in a while...he disappeared to go live in solitude, sort of like how Yoda did. He took R2 with him, of course (hey, where is C3PO in all of this?!). So the other big event that sets it all into motion will be that Finn and Rey set off to find Luke at Leia's behest...because Luke will train Finn to be the next Jedi, and he will be the de facto "main" hero of the films.
Other details. The First Order is to the Empire what the Third Reich was to Imperial Germany. You just _thought_ the Empire were Fascists. The First Order is going to be far more racist, totalitarian and brutal. It will, like the Third Reich, be founded on this notion of returning to Imperial glory. This is going to be a faction that venerates Darth Vader as a kind of legendary hero, regardless of who he actually was. They will appeal to the heritage of the Empire, and I think that maybe they are who has Vader's skull somehow. It will be led by the OTHER Sith lord, who will turn out to be Andy Serkis' character (which has not been revealed yet). Kylo Ren will be his apprentice.
But Kylo Ren...is going to turn out to be Han and Leia's other child, so Rey's brother. He will be depicted (by Adam Driver) as a sort of wayward son that got lured/seduced by the appeal of the Sith.
Captain Phasma, the chrome Stormtrooper is this picture's Boba Fett, a right-hand enforcer to whoever Der Space Furher turns out to be. It will also be a woman, because it is known that the actress that plays Brienne of Tarth has been cast as a Stormtrooper.
Now, what I can't sort out yet is a) how Han and Chewie are no longer in possession of the Falcon and they get it back and b) what Dameron Poe (Oscar Isaac) is doing in all this other than flying an X-Wing (that would be officially an Incom T-70, BTW). I think it's clear he's a Resistance pilot, but how he works into all this, I dunno.
Let's remember to check back here in December to see how right I was.
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DukeofChutney wrote: iAlso i predict that they have Iko Uwais as a Sith in a lightsaber duel.
I had no idea Iko Uwais was going to be in this. Looks like several people from Raid 2 are involved. My interest in this just shot up by a lot.
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Still unclear who Domhnall Gleeson is going to be, but his headshot on IMDB looks like he could be Crix Madine's kid!
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