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Batman, mass murderer.
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> BenA did a great job with the dialogue. His acting was spot on, except one thing....he is the slowest fighting Batman of all time. Straight up slow motion martial arts. Fight scenes were fully uninspired.
> I loved the fact that Batman was a cynical fuck. He had been so jaded by fighting criminals (in slow motion) that he viewed Supe as a potential EVE.
> Superman can go into space. He has no reason to inhale. How the fuck did the green shit fuck with him?
> Wonder Woman was 100% the highlight of the film. I'd drop 15$ to go see her film.
> Overall, the film was too dark. Way too dark. The whole "Batman No Guns" thing didn't bother me. The branding thing did. Even Frank Miller's Batman wasn't this dark.
> End game: Total disappointment. It was a bad film with a bad premise with shit choreography. The only truly impressive things were then special effects. The laser eyes and the energy waves were SPOT ON.
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Stuff I liked :
I liked Affleck, Cavill in their respective roles. I loved Jeremy Irons as Alfred - Just the right amount of snark. I am optimistic about the Wonder Woman film now, it seems like they did a decent job casting there.
The fights scenes were entertaining. The special effects on the laser eyes and whatnot were keen. Doomsday was some interesting CGi to watch.
Stuff I disliked :
Pacing was awful.
Eisenberg did what they asked him to do apparently, I'll give him that - but just a horrible choice for the direction to go with Luthor. he came off more as a kooky batman villain. And they never really gave a reason for his war on Supes.
The Flash sequence was not needed and actually was kind of took you out of the pacing.
I actually started laughing out loud when the whole turn pivot on the me vs. you turn was MARTHA...WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME. Like belly laughing. Like annoying the people around because I was loosing my crap at how bad bad it was.
Overall - I wasn't put off by the premise of this thread - Batman wasn't all murdery. Chill out peeps. It was a movie that was just entertaining enough once that I don't have butthurt, but bad enough in execution that I don't have any desire to ever watch it again.
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Characters intone expository dialogue in a manner that suggests they are heavily constipated.
Yo, this movie makes no sense.
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I haven't seen the movie, but that linked article pretty much spells out the whole movie and DEAR GOD does it sound stupid.
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I am sticking with Justice League and Justice League Unlimited on Netflix, and both the Batman and Superman animated series on Amazon Prime. And if I really want dark and violent, I can finish that second season of Daredevil, which is actually good.
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san il defanso wrote: I am sticking with Justice League and Justice League Unlimited on Netflix, and both the Batman and Superman animated series on Amazon Prime. And if I really want dark and violent, I can finish that second season of Daredevil, which is actually good.
Definitely. To commemorate NOT going to see BvS, I instead rewatched the "World's Finest" 3-part episode of the Animated Batman series. That's still my favorite Batman / Superman teamup.
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I went to the movies yesterday and saw Zootopia (which was excellent). SPOILED THE FUCK out of BvS for people walking into the theater, somehow didn't get my ass beat.
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Marvel left Captain America alone and look how awesome that turned out...AND they were able to explore themes and ideas about him being a good man living in a bad time.
I started watching Justice League again too, it's SO good. Right in the first episode you get Batman vs. Superman...but it's subtle, they don't try to kill each other. DC is just on it with the animated stuff, always. And the TV stuff is doing well, Flash is a great superhero show...I don't know why they don't just corner the market there and forget about this Murderverse thing they are foisting on us.
I just read that I09 thing...Batman mowing people down with a chain gun....
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Disgustipater wrote: Every time I see this thread, I read the topic as "Batman, bass murderer."
I still think "The Laughing Fish" may be the greatest Joker story of all time. When the episode appeared on The Animated Series, I stopped to talk to Steve Engelhart at a comic show in Detroit. I told him that they had used his dialogue (he hadn't seen it) and he kind of sighed and said that they'd given him a "sharing payment" or some such term which, given typical DC policy and work-for-hire arrangements, meant that they were paying him off to plagiarize his story without giving him a credit. I guess it's better than nothing but, still...
Have no interest in seeing the film. DC's attempts at translating their archetypal characters to the modern world are as bad as the majority of their comics have been for the past 50 years. They've never quite understood the concept of "person first, superhero second", which has been the way Marvel has been eating their lunch since 1960 and how they're continuing to do so in Hollywood, despite however many millions BvS might make as a one-off. DC makes billions off their trademarked characters on lunchboxes and beach towels, too. That's why the comics continue to exist, since they certainly don't make money. They're only rebooting their entire stable for- what? -the fifth time since the original Crisis on Infinite Earths? It's only been 5 years since The New 52. Maybe this'll be The Newer 42? Give it 10 more years and they'll be down to The Last Minute 12. Such a waste, especially considering that they shared space for so long with Vertigo and produced some interesting side projects.
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I do love Marvel's approach to their characters, but man, sometimes I just want to see superheroes doing superhero shit, and that's where DC excels. I'm there right now and that's why I've been digging the Justice League cartoon so much. There's not a lot of personal life crises, if any at all, yet there's still so much character. The two episode per story format worked well for it, they could really take their time and nail those character beats.
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