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Like many gamers, I live in hopes that my two-year-old son will one day want to play games with me. A lot of gamer dads harbor this wish, because it means that we will have at least one other person to play games with us when we’re too busy being dads to actually get together with our friends. I like to think that he and I will one day create opposing armies in Summoner Wars, and run them against each other. I want to teach him Settlers of Catan, finally proving to his mom that it’s an awesome game. And if he becomes appreciative of history like me, I’d like to see how well he does at stuff like Twilight Struggle. This is such silly speculation when he’s only two, but a lot of other gamer dads would be lying if they said they didn’t think about these things.

But unlike a lot of other gamer parents, I don’t want to MAKE  him play games. It’s my hobby, not his. If he ends up loving interpretive dance (something that would please his mother no end), and wants to be a dancer, then I will stand by him every step of the way, make it to every recital, and be so proud of him. And if he loves to play board games with me, I’ll count it  a blessing and enjoy those moments too. But I’m not going to decide his interests for him. So you can imagine my surprise when he started coming up to me and sayiug, “Game daddy?” He then will point downstairs towards our game shelf and begin the descent down the stairs to pick one out.

This is partially adorable because he’s now at an age when he learns new words every day. Among these words is the phrase “Pace Hoke,” which every Blood Angel should know means “Space Hulk.” I haven’t yet reviewed Space Hulk (though I almost certainly will someday), but this is the grail game in my collection. Though out-of-print, I was able to find a used copy for a very fair price, and even though I don’t play it constantly, it’s still a favorite. It is also now a favorite of my son, who finds the slavering aliens on the box cover to be very cool. He loves the floor tiles, which he knows are put together like a puzzle. And he likes the miniatures, which are decidedly not child-friendly. They have jagged pointies all over them, and they are designed mostly to be looked out and painted, not handled by a toddler. He picks up a handful of dice and derives great pleasure from hucking them into the box lid. And he likes to look at the fancy color pictures in the rule book (I do too, since the miniatures in there are all painted).

You’d think I’d be a wreck letting a toddler play with the most expensive game I own. But he does very well. He picks them out of the foam, looks at the pieces, and fights the Space Marines against the Genestealers. He puts them back when I ask, and then asks for me to open the plastic bag full of tokens. He dumps them out, picks through them, then helps me put them away when we’re done. And when he’s done with Space Hulk, he picks out another game to open and play with. His particular favorites include Nexus Ops (which also has cool plastic pieces), Ticket to Ride Europe (“choo-choo”), and Fearsome Floors (which lets him build his own bad guy).

He has no concept of the rules to any of these games. He merely knows that they are daddy’s toys, and that if he asks politely, daddy or mommy will play with him. At first, I admit I only tolerated this ritual. I paid a lot of money for these games, and I put a lot of time into curating a collection of which I’m pretty proud. But my son is perceptive enough to know that daddy just owns a bunch of toys. They are silly boxes, filled with very expensive cardboard and plastic, that are used for play. I may put on airs and act like I’m doing something constructive with my time, but it’s just another way to play with my friends.

It’s very easy for an adult to forget this. I once read a thread on Boardgame Geek proposing that we say we “tabled” a game instead of “playing” it. The rationale was that we are adults, and we therefore are above things like “play.” This was deservedly met with derision by most of the other users, but more of us have this attitude than will admit. We like to find games with lots of pieces, rules, and drab graphics, and act like we are sharpening our minds. We are, but that’s not why we’re doing it.

Before this gets too goopy, I know that we’re adults here. When we were kids, we reasoned like kids. When we are adults, we move on to things that are more grown up, even while we keep playing games. And that’s a natural thing. But it’s easy to let that transition rob us of some of the joy that comes from gathering around a table with your loved ones and friends and laughing and cracking jokes while you play. And it’s easy to forget that those toys aren’t an end unto themselves. They ideally exist to facilitate social interaction. The best games promote that, and the worst ones fight against it. When I’m with my son, every game is just a big toy for us to play with together.

And while its fun now, it makes me even more excited for the future. Not just what games we will play together, but all of the other joys our lives will share. I’m glad that even at this young age, we have something we can share.

Read some less sappy fare at my blog, The Rumpus Room.

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  • avatarMattDP

    Agree totally. It was quite a wake-up call to watch my then-two year old daughter pick out the piece from War of the Ring and make the Rohirrim go cavorting across Helm's Deep to a fair, where they enjoyed the carousel and more candyfloss than was good for them.

  • avataredulis

    My 9-year old daughter loves to play games. We 'tabled' (that's just stupid) Small World last night for the first time. Her favorite is Tailsman, which usally gets set up and left and we play a turn here and there. We used to play a ton of games when she was 5 and 6, now do not play as often, since I also have a 3 year old and 1 year old who seem to require a lot of attention.

    My three old has tried out Hey that's my fish! and Doktor Igel and memory. She tends to quit half-way through and make-up her own rules. It makes me twitchy, but I am getting over it. I guess the point is to interact and sometimes the rules are not so important. We also own a bunch of those family pasttimes co-op games... anyone play those? Caves and Claws is my favorite.

    But when playing with kids nothing beats legos. Those things are awesome.

  • avatarSagrilarus  - Tough Shit Kid -- Don't MAKE Me Pull Out Pocket Ba

    As someone a little father down the road than you, I had four children all proceed through the stage your in with largely the same signs -- interest in what I was doing at the kitchen table when everyone else was watching TV. I did the same with my Dad who was a big toy trains guy. My daughter lost the itch and now plays nothing but the mainstream titles you see at Target. My three boys live for competition, and CCGs are one of their primary outlets.

    . . . which sucks because I hate CCG games. Deck building feels like a complete chore to me and the result is that I never get emotionally invested because of that. I play one of my boys' obsolete decks (generally Magic or Pokemon) and get crushed because their ability to innovate is climbing very quickly right now. If the deck is two weeks old it's likely a loser.

    I didn't push. The kids purchased Pokemon cards merely for the appearance and at one point one of them discovered that there was a game contained within. He built two decks without any energy and had me attempt to play a game with him. In the ten minutes I spent explaining how things needed to work he grokked the fundamental concepts of CCG and has shown incredible focus for the games ever since. When your boy's teacher tells you he has A.D.D. ask him what powers Torterra has on the foil card. He'll display a remarkable ability to focus attention and remember detail when there's sufficient incentive to do so.

    It's funny that you mentioned Summoner Wars because I think that's one I could sell to them and likely will buy just for playing with them. Yes, I'm considering pressing my own preferences because there needs to be some amount of common ground or the time together will be joyless. With three boys they can play their CCGs between themselves, and when they want Dad in the mix they need to do what the rest of us do -- compromise a bit so everyone can enjoy the experience. They're at an age now where that's appropriate. My oldest likes Memoir '44 and we've shot at each other plenty, but I think Summoner Wars with its card-driven abilities will appeal to him more, and its underlying mechanical resemblance to East-Front games from my youth is something that works for me as well.

    S.

  • avatarjeb  - Sag, I have answers for you...

    DRAFT. You need to teach these boys how to Draft. Winston Draft, specifically. It limits the cardpool and makes you do "more with less." Or Cube Draft. Or build... what the hell is it called now? Prismatic? 5-Color, 250, Elder Dragon Highlander--whatever. One of the HUGE deck formats. Those have a higher up front time investment in fleshing out a theme or direction, but it's made up for by not burning out the play possibilities after ten games. I have a pile of decent-but-not-decent-enough-to-sell-as-singles cards you can spring on them. Gimme a jingle jangle.

    I have four kids also, and the older ones are steeped in games. Spontaneous answers to "what's your favorite game" coming up:
    Sivan, 8: WALLENSTEIN, CLUE: GREAT MUSEUM CAPER, and VEGAS SHOWDOWN
    Shai, 6.5: NEXUS OPS
    Meital: "the marble game" (BALANKO)
    Edden, 0.5: gum-the-thumb.

    They started with GULO GULO and GO AWAY MONSTER. They graduated to DoaM and tile-laying (CARC, CALIFORNIA) in short order. They don't play the minis games, but they loves them some minis. Now we even play some decent Euros like PR and T&E.

    Games I have avoided are those with traitors (BSG) and those with deal-making (MONOPOLY and SETTLERS) Kids can't keep secrets and they can't help but be ripped off. Soon! We have tried SETTLERS and Sivan is probably able to play now, but Shai is a pushover.

    Playing games is a blast. You have to keep it fun, and you have to keep it fair. "We don't play games that make people cry." Important rule. We only finish about 3/4 of the games we start, but that's enough to keep me sated. I am mostly fetishizing the bits, so playing is basically extra for me at this point.

  • avatarSagrilarus

    They were just in a draft tournament this past weekend. They had a great time and one of them won the whole thing.

    More to the subject, in my case I have three out of four kids that enjoy the deeper games, two of them heavily. I haven't pushed, but especially with boys I think the competition aspect is part of their nature and they gravitated to what was available. I'm able to nurture it more than most parents and with twins it's important to be available to keep the peace, but other than that they're largely self-taught and selecting their own paths.

    This could play out on the basketball court or the XBox instead, but in their case it's played out in CCGs. It's their choice of hobby and they're welcome to it. I get them to open play 25 miles away and find other things to do while they're playing there for three hours. It's good use of the time -- they have fun and learn, I work on my articles for here where I suddenly have four in the queue.

    S.

  • avatarmikecl

    Your wish is gonna come true because they learn what they live! I was a rated chess player when my son was two and I'd parade the chess pieces in front of him and go Rook! And he'd pick them up and repeat the words.

    His favorite was Bissup because it had the perfect suckable end. These guys grew up playing my 80's games like Cosmic Encounter and Gammarauders. They'd eye my Magic Realm but were too young to play it. One of their rites of passage was finally being old enough to sit at the table with Mom and Dad to learn Magic Realm. To this day, we still get together and play that game and they all know it inside out.

    My son became quite a creative DM (do they call it GM now?) creating his own scenarios in very detailed fantasy campaign settings. Today he's a computer programmer and more into dexterity games like Jungle Speed. He's living what he calls a "deliberate" life out in the mountains in a very small town with his fiance where they rent cabins and he works IT remotely.

    My daughter still games as well although she's not into the more complex and lengthy games anymore. However, her husband IS and will set aside an entire day to come over and game with me. Occasionally I get together with his friends (at his insistence). Yep that's right. She MARRIED a gamer. :-)

    So keep at it San. Your children love nothing better than spending time with you when they're young. I used to play Falcon 3.0 a combat aircraft game on the PC and my daughter would spend hours sitting beside me so she could chat me up while dropping chaff and flares for me. My son and I solved Star Control 2 together. He loved the Pkunk.

    Gaming with kids is great. Their love of play is natural. They want to share their time with you and it teaches them to think. Kids are a great investment too. You get back in spades what you put into raising them. You'll never be alone the rest of your life and you'll always be the most important person to someone.

    Thanks for sharing!

  • avatarJonJacob

    A few months ago I saw my child reaching for things with his left hand a little too often. "SHIT" I though; "I don't want a lefty child".

    Now my Grandman was beat for being left handed as a child, it's not that long ago so no offense. I just have a lot of instruments on the wall that are all for right handed people. Everything from Uke to Accoridan is designed that way and my dream is to jam and maybe write a tune or two with him.

    So I get it, nice article.

    I also want to game with him. I was eyeing Earth Reborn as we hung out together this week-end. In it's semi-painted state I thought maybe it will be done in ten years when he's old enough to play. These are dreams all my fellow parents have too.

    But I know many a child that hasn't grown up like this, many who just don't like the same shit as you. My Dad had to twist my arm to get me to go fishing with him when I was young. Hunting I could get behind but fishing was dull. I've seen it happen countless times in my life so I'm fully prepared to accept the fact (if it happens that way) that he might be into Cars and Running (two things I hate) and I will try to support him. It's a little dichotomy I live with for now but you better believe I'll be sticking him in a Skinner Box full of games and instruments to try and get the results I want.

    I'll just let him leave if he cries is all.

  • avatarInfinityMax

    My kids are teenagers now, and I remember exactly this time, when I hoped fervently that my kids would learn to love playing games. They sort of did, but they're not carbon copies of me, so their tastes are very different. My son loves Risk Legacy (probably because he wins a lot), and my daughter is a huge fan of Euros. Neither really enjoys war games (which sucks, because I have played a TON of war games), but they'll sit around the living room for a decent party game.

    My wife has often tried to force one or the other of my kids to participate when I'm breaking out a game, and I always tell her that these things are for fun. You don't play games when you don't want to play games, because then it won't be fun, and will completely defeat the purpose. So we play a lot of three-player games, because my daughter hates it when you attack her armies, and my son is bored stiff if the game doesn't have someone getting stabbed in the gizzards. It kind of works out, though, because there's almost always someone who will play any given game.

    A boring Euro about zombies, on the other hand - I would have a hard time 'tabling' that.

    (That term is especially stupid, because to me it sounds like you're stopping the game, as in 'we will table this discussion.' And what fun-sucking drone would want to take the joy out of board games?)

  • avatarMattLoter

    You dudes have it all wrong. You need a brother or sister who's even more into the shit you want your kids to be into. Aunts and uncles are way cooler than parents so your parental touch of uncool death stinks up games too much unless you take a back seat to the far cooler adult. You can still be gamers, but you can't be the alpha gamer!

  • avatarNotahandle

    InfinityMax: Thanks for making 'tabling' sound even more stupid. I immediately thought of Sorcerers Cave and how I'd 'floored' that game a lot in the past. Dart players presumably 'wall' their games in pubs...

  • avatarhotseatgames

    My 5 year olds love Heroscape and Heroica. I love Heroscape too, and for a Lego game, Heroica is pretty cool. It definitely needs some house rules to make it more enjoyable though.

    They also like HeroQuest on occasion, but have never played with the real rules. I look forward to playing it with them for real one day.

  • avatarubarose  - re: Child's Play
    MattLoter wrote:
    Aunts and uncles are way cooler than parents so your parental touch of uncool death stinks up games too much unless you take a back seat to the far cooler adult.

    This is true. My neices and nephews, and other people's kids want to play with me. The Spawn wants to play with anyone else as long as it isn't me.

  • avatarmikecl  - re: re: Child's Play
    ubarose wrote:
    MattLoter wrote:
    Aunts and uncles are way cooler than parents so your parental touch of uncool death stinks up games too much unless you take a back seat to the far cooler adult.


    This is true. My neices and nephews, and other people's kids want to play with me. The Spawn wants to play with anyone else as long as it isn't me.


    It is true, but only when they hit their teens. Until then, they crave your attention (at least mine did). At around age 13, you go from genius to simpleton but the groundwork you laid in their childhood is still there. They may not game with you as much anymore and they may get into different stuff (for my son for awhile it was live action roleplaying) and they may even grow out of games altogether proving that YOU really are the biggest kid of the bunch.

    Eventually they return to the fold. My daugther isn't an enthusiastic gamer but her husband is and my 34-year-old son will ALWAYS play with me and games with his own wife. He's just not an avid gamer and he's not a collector. That said, he does have his own version of Magic Realm!

  • avatarSagrilarus

    You can use that to your advantage. Have Manoeuver sent to your Brother's place and have him stop by with it as "a gift."

  • avatarmads b.

    When I picked up my three year old girl at kindergarten a few days ago, the first thing she told me was how she had played the orange snail in some game and that she'd won. That just priceless for a gamer dad.

    I (and my wife) have given her games since she was around one year old and she really likes both playing them and playing with them. But unless it's memory or some such we don't always use the rules as written. For instance she has this HABA game (German company that makes great games for kids) about picking fruit before a crow reaches the fruit garden and eats it all. It's a very simple game where you roll a die and pick a matching fruit. And if you roll a crow, you move it one place towards the garden. Usually we just play without the crow, but recently I've succeded in getting her to play with the timer which was very exciting for both of us. I had to change the story a bit though, so instead of a thieving crow, we were planning a surprise party and had to finish in time. Not because it's in any way dangerous, but because she couldn't quite see why we couldn't just share with the crow.

    What I especially like abouut gaming with my kid is that it's an activity that's fun in itself. I like playing with her without games, but let's face it: sometimes the activity a three year old wants to do is only fun because it's with your kid. Games, even simple ones, are fun in themselves and playing them with your kid makes them plain awesome.

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