Familydome! Ticket to Ride v TtR: Europe

I was all excited to do a Heroscape v X-wing thrashdome this week, then saw that one ran last year. Needing an alternative, I'll use my TtR dilemma. I've got the base game, never played Europe, but I've got a line on a cheap copy of TtR: Europe. Going to the in-laws soon, and they love TtR. I don't need two base games. Which do I leave at the in-laws?

choo-choo!

I got Europe first, and later got the 10th Anniversary of the original. I was crushingly disappointed in how bland and lifeless the original board felt, to the point that I never want to play it again. That I can't use the cool carriages on any other map was just the frosting on that particular shit sandwich.

I do think the 1912 Europa expansion's ticket options improve the Europe game for "gamers", but for family, I would always go for the basic Europe game. It looks fantastic, and the tunnels and ferry routes add some interesting choices/tension to the game that the original lacks.

I have every TTR map except for Maarklin, and Europe is my joint favourite with India.

neither, incinerate both and get airlines Europe.

Ticket to Ride: Europe is a very good game. Better than the original.

for non-gamers, some of the fun is playing on a map of things they recognize. I've played Europe with people who are turned off by not being able to find locations easily. I know, basic geography shouldn't be a turn-off point, but it is.

So, for me...non gamers like the one they recognize better.

Trashdome has imploded.

You want simplicity in a family game, but the original TTR is, to me, a little bit too simple. TTR:Eurpoe adds just enough extra's that it's more fun. I also find that if you're playing with little ones, as a N. American, the lessons in geography are a good thing. I know that I learned a decent amount about Geography because of Risk. Kamchatka wouldn't even have been on my radar without that game.

I haven't played the original since we got Europe if that's any indication.

Mad Dog wrote: Trashdome has imploded.

Well, come on back and start running this series again and you won't have rubes like me throwing these together.

For the rest, seems that most agree TtR is more casual so I think I'll leave that with the in-laws. They're _very_ casual. The wife and I play TtR quite a bit, so it'll be nice to play in Europe for awhile.

EDIT: Yeah, the geography is a big reason we play it with the kids. The thing is, when I drop the USA map, then we'll have EuroRails and TtR Europe at our house. Fun for me, I grew up there, but I'll probably need to get Empire Builder now or something for a good US map based game.

Tangent: What's that 90s eurogame where you travel the world looking for animals? Does it have city and country names on the map? Is it any good?

Jeff, I had a lot of Ticket to Ride stuff for a long time and eventually scaled it back to TTR: Europe along with the Switzerland map.

I do like that the US map a little more, just because I like how the routes out east are more congested and the ones in the west are more spread out. The Europe map leaves the big routes towards the outside of the board, and the congestion is in the middle. I also think the familiar geography is nice. It doesn't help that the Europe map uses the names in their original language, which removes a lot of potential familiarity.

That said, there are some tweaks that I like a lot more in Europe. I like the stations, which keep the middle of the board from getting completely locked up. It's a lot easier to win by pursuing a lot of short tickets, something that was basically impossible with the original board I think. So it's just a touch more balanced I think. I normally don't think that's a big deal, but with a casual game I feel it's a decent choice. Anyway they are able to accomplish it with a minimum of extra rules, which is admirable.

So yeah, TtR: Europe gets my vote.

What about that Europe 1912 Expansion? I'll be getting it as well in a bundle.

We threw out the little cards in TtR and always used the 1910 cards. Plus, I like the 'Big Cities' option for two.

What variants in 1912 are worth it?