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Hate the Star Wars prequels? What about a sequel?

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01 Nov 2012 17:49 #137132 by Grudunza
I agree. I don't think the old characters should be the focus, by any means... a brief cameo or a defining scene here and there... but having them in there would help glue the whole series together and sort of help to pass the torch. And it would make sense with the prequels being the previous generation for 7-9 to skip to the next generation (but Luke, Leia, Han, Chewy, etc., could still be there, as old as the actors are now, which is perfect.

Well wait, this is interesting: blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/george-l...disney-sale-20121101

So according to that, the story is of Luke in his 30's-40's (no way Hamill could pull that off). But Lucas did meet last year with Hamill and Fisher to tell them about 7-9, so presumably he might have been feeling out whether they'd want to be involved in some way.

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01 Nov 2012 18:01 - 01 Nov 2012 18:03 #137133 by Columbob
Was Chris Lee too old to be in Star Wars?

Also Jedi are supposed to age significantly slower than other mortals, so Mark Hamill would be ancient as Luke.
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01 Nov 2012 19:07 #137136 by SuperflyPete
They should bump forward - Put Leia and Han in there as the parents of the main characters, Jacen and Jaina.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo_family

They've run the well dry, better to go "The NExt Generation"

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01 Nov 2012 22:07 #137152 by clockwirk
The problem is that the story of Luke, Leia, Han, and especially Darth Vader is already done. The Empire is gone. There's no real way to tie the story back to what we already know about Star Wars, unless you involve older versions of Luke et al. I don't think anyone wants to see a 60-something Luke or Leia as the main characters, so they're reduced to being supporting sage characters like Kenobi in A New Hope. If that's the case, you might as well start with a brand new IP with a brand new story. Of course, the Star Wars license will put people in the seats, and that's why they're using it, but outside of superficial stuff (x-wings, lightsabers, the force), I can't see any solid connection that can be made to the OT. There's no real reason to continue the story.

The story of Vader, The Empire, Luke, Leia, etc... IS Star Wars, and that story is done. Everything else is just an IP money grabbing fan-fic.
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02 Nov 2012 03:39 #137157 by mikoyan
I wouldn't mind seeing something like Tag and Bink. It would be kind of cool to see the Star Wars universe through the eyes of some minor characters. The funny thing is that there is so much to use that it could be about anything set in the Star Wars universe. Shoot, I wouldn't mind seeing the Han Solo stories turned into movies. But honestly, I would like to see it either set way in the future or way in the past.

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02 Nov 2012 12:23 #137162 by Hatchling
apparently Lucas is going to earmark most of the $4 billion for charity:
www.toplessrobot.com/2012/11/george_luca...on_of_his_disney.php

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02 Nov 2012 14:38 - 02 Nov 2012 14:38 #137169 by Columbob

clockwirk wrote: The story of Vader, The Empire, Luke, Leia, etc... IS Star Wars, and that story is done. Everything else is just an IP money grabbing fan-fic.


That's the thing though, is the Empire really done and dead? The power switch to the New Republic can't be smooth sailing all the way and countless warlords would probably try to stake out their own private little sector of the galaxy, ruling with an iron fist (or not). Some novels were interested in this aspect of the galaxy.
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02 Nov 2012 15:36 - 02 Nov 2012 15:40 #137179 by SuperflyPete
The empire didn't just fall...
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galactic_Empire

The Empire was too large, however, to be destroyed in one blow; for the next decade or so, the Rebels (soon renamed the Alliance of Free Planets and then the New Republic) fought to free the galaxy from former Imperials styling themselves as independent warlords as well as Imperial loyalists, such as Thrawn and Ysanne Isard.
Even prior to the fall of Emperor Palpatine in 4 ABY, the signs of fragmentation began to slowly reveal themselves. The first incursion was that of Moff Kalast, followed by the more serious situation involving the free-selling arms dealer Admiral Harkov, and finally culminating in the major Imperial infighting with Grand Admiral Demetrius Zaarin. The situation became serious when Zaarin attempted a coup d'état on Emperor Palpatine, managing to miraculously capture the Sith Lord by abducting him from his flagship, in a plot later thwarted by Admiral Thrawn.

Immediately following the Imperial defeat at the Battle of Endor, Grand Vizier Sate Pestage seized control of the Empire. However, he lacked the charisma, Force powers, and terrifying presence that both Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader used to keep the Empire together. Admiral Blitzer Harrsk was the first Imperial to declare himself a warlord and set up his own mini-Empire, but he would not be the last. Others included Admiral Treuten Teradoc, Admiral Zsinj, and General Sander Delvardus, to name a few.

Sate Pestage only managed to hold the throne for a scant six months before he was deposed by the Imperial Ruling Council composed of three Tribunes. The Ruling Council was acting on the manipulations of Imperial Intelligence Director Ysanne Isard though, and the Ruling Council's leadership of the Empire ended under brutal conditions executed by Isard.

Ysanne Isard managed to hold the Empire together and stem off aggressive warlords, as well as Trioculus and the false Kadann, who also claimed the throne, for nearly two years before losing control of Imperial Center. When Ysanne Isard started to lose her grasp over the Empire, she had her scientists develop a biological virus targeting only aliens that she later let loose in Coruscant. So when Coruscant fell under the Rebel's attack, led by Rogue Squadron, they inherited Isard's disease that caused havoc for the starting government. With the loss of Coruscant, the Empire dissolved further and, soon, Warlord Zsinj was seen as the single largest Imperial threat in the galaxy. Isard managed to evade death and escaped to her own little kingdom.

The remnants of the Empire found themselves for the first time on the same side of the table as the New Republic. Both governments viewed Warlord Zsinj as their biggest threat. Zsinj came under the pressure of both governments, but it wasn't until Admiral Teren Rogriss teamed up with General Solo that they managed to bring Zsinj down.

The temporary alliance was over and new fighting erupted between the Empire and the New Republic over the scraps of Zsinj's domain. However, the New Republic dealt blow after blow to the Empire, winning most of the engagements and further humiliating the Empire by pushing them off of the monstrous ship producing world of Kuat.


10 years after the Battle of Yavin (10 ABY) the Imperial Warlords joined forces to create the Imperial Ruling Council. Palpatine returns like Voldemort in a cloned body, and shit starts over.
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03 Nov 2012 22:08 #137209 by scissors

Hatchling wrote: apparently Lucas is going to earmark most of the $4 billion for charity:http://www.toplessrobot.com/2012/11/george_lucas_is_giving_all_4_billion_of_his_disney.php[/quote

How this goes unnoticed or rather without comment from anyone is beyond me. Guess that's strike three for the critics who said he did it for the cash. Four billion. Think about what most of us would do with that. Noble guy.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/02/george...ml?utm_hp_ref=impact

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03 Nov 2012 22:44 #137211 by Black Barney
Did he really give it all away? That's awesome (of him).

I"m not surprised that is a lessor story than 3 new Star Wars movies though. I honestly think that 4 billion to charity isn't really news, the other is.

And the LESS news-ish it is, the cooler it is. (it's like how true heroes are ones that do selfless acts knowing that they will never be recognized for it) - i saw that on an Outer Limits once

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