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Yeah, 5 stars to me is perfect. Flawless, etc. The last 5 star sci-fi I saw I THINK is Aliens (for me), I'm trying to remember if there was an awesome sci-fi since that.
Aliens is very good. Not as confined as Alien (although on its own, the confinement is a plus), but still not enough breadth for me to be the "perfect" sci-fi movie.
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It starts out great. Probably the first half of the movie, I was enthralled. Great cinematography, interesting ideas, some neat-looking effects with holographs, and a general sense of wonder that I haven't gotten from a movie in years.
But. I didn't like any of the characters by this point, despite having a very favorable attitude towards Noomi Rapace, Idris Elba, and Guy Pearce. If anything, I almost liked the characters played by Charlize Theron and Michael Fassbender, because at least they made sense to me. In particular, I had a big problem with Noomi's overly-religious scientist and her asshole husband who apparently thought that he was playing a fratboy. Their relationship didn't add up, and they didn't sell me on the science either. Too many of the rest of the characters just lacked any characterization at all, so their deaths made no impact.
The horror element didn't work for me. Not sure why. The effects were credible. Maybe it was my depraved indifference to these crappy characters. They were awfully stupid, for one thing. I know that if I ever end up on a totally alien world that has never been explored before, I will not be in a hurry to take off my helmet, especially when the temperature is said to be -12. Even if that's celsius, that's pretty unpleasant. And then there is the whole potential for alien germs. Another character got absurdly friendly towards an alien snake monster, which seemed both stupid and unlikely. Even when poor Noomi's scientist character ends up in a situation at least as terrifying as anything seen in the Alien movies, I just didn't care. Maybe I'm too depraved and psychotic to feel empathy for these characters. Or maybe the dialogue and characterization sucked.
I think that's where the blame for this mess ultimately belongs. Prometheus was written by Damon Lindelof, the head writer for Lost. So he may be great as asking interesting questions and setting up cool situations, but he totally sucks at follow-through. The fundamental aspect of storytelling is to get people interested in what happens next. But when what happens next doesn't make any sense, you start to lose the audience. I also expect that Lindelof is responsible for the lame religious aspects to Prometheus. It isn't impossible to successfully mix religion with science fiction, but when the combination goes wrong, you end up with crap like the last season of BSG, the last season of Lost, or Prometheus. It's too bad that Dan O'Bannon died a few years back, he should have been one of the writers for Prometheus instead of anybody involved with Lost.
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The characters in the film suffer from the fact that theres too many of them, so none of them ever really get fleshed out and theres whole situations that never get dealt with..
Noomi's character is very weird. On one had we are supposed to view her as a rational scientist who is driven, most obviously at the close of the film to extremes, in the quest for answers. But at the same time, when ever anyone questions her views she puts it down to blind faith that doesnt need credible answers. This suggests to me that the script writter doesnt understand either science or religion. One is presented as total end of discussion, the other as magic. The experiment they perform on the alien head is just rediculous. No scientific method, no debate, lets just inject the first alien head man kind has ever seen with magic crap and see what happens, derrrppp. Other plot lines, like the captain. He just rather suddenly decides hes going to stop the aliens and then sacrifice his life and his crew in what feels like a very light decision. Theres little to no build up to this big dramatic decision because the film doesnt have time for it. Most of the characters at some point in the film behave in a way that doesnt make a great deal of sense or just asks you to accept alot of unknowns as part of the audience. With the robot, you just have to accept that he understands most of whats going on and has some motive for most his actions with out ever really getting many clues on how or why, again because the film doesnt have time for it.
The problem with all this is that it tells the audience that whats happening on screen is totally unrealistic, so when horrible dangerous things happen they feel silly rather than terrifying because you cant project yourself into the moment. You can't emphasize with characters that don't make sense as real people.
This film would have been better if they had halved the number of characters, aliens, plot lines and done a little well rather than a lot crap. Lost is a TV show that lives on throwing new crap at you to prevent you from thinking over all the plot holes that have emerged so far. This film sort of does the same Rant Over.
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Hatchling wrote: After reading the chat here about Moon just now, I found it on Netflix and watched it. Wow what a great film. So heavy, powerful, gut-wrenching and (thankfully) satisfying. I was (am) totally absorbed into it.
You fucker...you were the LAST one to see it, because it's gone from NetFlix now.
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I was a little bit disoriented. The similarities/references make it impossible to watch it without comparing to Alien. The differences confuse me.
Lots of plot holes though. Alien has simple plot with a major plot twist. This one is layer upon layer of plots and several twists that are rather impactless. This make for a good number of incosistencies. The end is bad though. Do they think it's Millennium Falcon???
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See, that's my kind of science fiction. Broody and deep. And in the case of Moon the plot-line is firmly dependent on the SF nature of the film. The setting is critical to the story.
Aliens was a cowboys & indians film. Lots of shooting, no connection to the setting whatsoever. That same movie could be remade in the old west, or as a WWII movie, or a tall ship movie . . . fun enough to ride on but it's not technically very interesting. It was a safe movie to make. That's how Cameron's stuff feels to me.
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