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Need comments on rules

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01 Oct 2014 12:17 - 01 Oct 2014 12:19 #187993 by ZMan
Need comments on rules was created by ZMan
Hey!

I need you guys to check out the attached rules and let me know if:
they are clear - can you understand the game from reading these rules
if you had issues, where were you confused?

And what about the character art found in the rules - like them, don't like them?

any other comments?

Appreciate it.

EDIT: I can't seem to find the attachment (unless it needs approval)? If it doesn't show, please pm me with your email addy and I'll send it to you.
Last edit: 01 Oct 2014 12:19 by ZMan.

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01 Oct 2014 13:56 #187997 by Black Barney
How long is the rulebook?

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01 Oct 2014 15:06 - 01 Oct 2014 15:12 #187999 by Sagrilarus
About eleven inches. Sort of a stupid question Barney.
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01 Oct 2014 15:12 #188000 by Black Barney
Sorry. How long across?
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01 Oct 2014 15:23 #188001 by Applejack
Can you just upload it online and link it here? I'm sure at least a few of us with no lives and nothing better to do will give it a browse.
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01 Oct 2014 15:44 #188002 by ZMan
Replied by ZMan on topic Re: Need comments on rules
I don't have a place to put it online but I sent out a bunch of emails to those that pm'ed me. the rules are 8 pages, smaller than 8.5 x 11 sized paper.

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01 Oct 2014 16:06 #188005 by Gary Sax
Replied by Gary Sax on topic Re: Need comments on rules

Black Barney wrote: Sorry. How long across?


Girth is what matters, Barney. Paint can.
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01 Oct 2014 23:12 #188013 by Applejack
So yeah, questions and comments;

1) I think it should be made clear under 'recruitment', that you can roll the dice as many times as you want until you either farkle or decide to end your turn.

2) What are 'scoring dice'? If the event die is a scoring die, can I set it aside? This should be made clear.

3) So under 'recruitment' it says you must set aside at least one scoring die, then under 'risk and reward' it says if all my dice score, I may reroll all the scoring dice. So I get back the dice that have been set aside?

4) Let's say I roll a straight and a dragon, what happens? They score, but they don't score. They get set aside, then none remain, so I get them back? It's a little confusing.

5) The scoring table should be ordered by number of soldiers gained. Reverse order 3 twos - 3 sixes. Just personal preference.

6) Honestly, the play examples do a better job of explaining the rules than the actual rules do.

I think brawling will take a long time and bore the other players who are not involved. This game is for 2-5 players, but I think it would be faster and more fun with lesser than greater number of players.

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02 Oct 2014 11:02 #188034 by ZMan
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Applejack wrote: So yeah, questions and comments;

1) I think it should be made clear under 'recruitment', that you can roll the dice as many times as you want until you either farkle or decide to end your turn.

2) What are 'scoring dice'? If the event die is a scoring die, can I set it aside? This should be made clear.

3) So under 'recruitment' it says you must set aside at least one scoring die, then under 'risk and reward' it says if all my dice score, I may reroll all the scoring dice. So I get back the dice that have been set aside?

4) Let's say I roll a straight and a dragon, what happens? They score, but they don't score. They get set aside, then none remain, so I get them back? It's a little confusing.

5) The scoring table should be ordered by number of soldiers gained. Reverse order 3 twos - 3 sixes. Just personal preference.

6) Honestly, the play examples do a better job of explaining the rules than the actual rules do.

I think brawling will take a long time and bore the other players who are not involved. This game is for 2-5 players, but I think it would be faster and more fun with lesser than greater number of players.


Let me answer here: And this is not to belittle your comments - which I appreciate. Just want to make sure nothing was missed.

1: It says under Recruitment and under the other sections: You then have the option to end your turn and add the accumulated Soldier Tokens (and any Magic Items) to your army or
continue rolling the remaining dice and the Event Die to try and increase your
recruitment for the turn.

Did you miss that sentence or was it ambiguous?

2: the event die is not a scoring die since it has no value. If you look at the soldier table you need to make singles, trips, etc in order to score. Also in the Event die section it does say it has one dragon, one soldier and 4 blanks and it describes what the two icons do.

3: Yes. We did not want your turn to end cause you had no dice left to score: if you were willing to continue to press your luck and you had set aside all your dice, you roll all of them to continue recruitment. Remember at this point you have set aside soldier tokens already so you know how many you have coming to you should you stop rolling (and not farkle).

4: So you lose 2,500 soldiers to the dragon but your turn does not automatically end so if you choose to roll again you take all the dice and continue your turn.

5: can't comment much on that.

6: The examples are there to solidify the concepts in the rules. I do that every chance I can get. I even present rare cases at times in order to prevent FAQs. If you did not have the rules I don't think the examples by themselves would be enough to teach the game.

And what is amazing is that I an teach the rules in under 5 minutes (and have) but you just can't write it that way.

Thanks for reading!
Zev

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03 Oct 2014 14:27 #188067 by ZMan
Replied by ZMan on topic Re: Need comments on rules
I got what I needed. Thanks for volunteering!

If I remember, next time I finish a ruleset I will ask you guys to check it out.

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