Uncomfortable Discussion- is Civilization obsolete?

Wade, I'll trade or sell. I don't have Advanced though. Make offers!

Michael Barnes wrote: Wade, I'll trade or sell. I don't have Advanced though. Make offers!

I've got an up-to-date For Trade list on TOS, check me out there (same username). Probably not in a buying mood though; I'm trying to slim down and am prepping a big sale as it is.

My wife and daughter and I have played Civilization the past few years on New Year's Eve. Takes about 4-5 hours with the 3 of us.

I just remembered something else: you can shorten the end game trigger by playing until a power reaches a certain age (eg Bronze age or whatever).

Somebody just posted "condensed civiliation" which cuts Advanced Civilization in half, supposedly. I haven't had time to take a look at it yet.

bgg.cc/filepage/105819/condensed-civilization-ver-110

Ten years ago, I played Advanced Civilization for the second and final time. Four players, twelve hours of play, and maybe four hours of moderate fun. By comparison, I have played Twilight Imperium 3 four times in the last five years, and even the 6-player game took less than 7 hours to play and delivered a lot more fun than Civ.

I have a love/hate relationship with Civ. I have played it a dozen times over the last decade, I have never won a game but generally have a good time with it. But I have had two copies stolen from me over the years. So while I have enjoyed playing it, I have just lost too much money with it. Now that I no longer run a convention, I have no fear of losing a copy, but my wife and friends have no interest in playing it.

I love Civ. I just need to plan a full day in advance with lots of good food, music and topics of discussion between friends, and Civ. makes for a great day game.

So my disclaimer is with "Good friends" only.

Hear is my sad story. In 1997, at the apex of my Magic the Gathering years, I traded away Civilization, and Advance Civilization for a booster box of Fallen Empires. I swear to god.

I've been jabbing my nuts on that one ever since. As Barnes is on the hunt for Euro's, I am on the hunt for my lost classics. Civ./Advanced Civ. highest on that list.

Michael Barnes wrote:
Let's come to Jesus here. How many of you guys have actually played Civilization in the past five years? Ten years? How many games with 8+ hour playtimes have you FINISHED in the last five/ten years? And NOT on Vassal.

I played last year at BGG.CON. I would do it every year if I could. And that was with I believe 12 people.

The warm embrace of a 12 hour adv. civ. megagame. Truthfully, nothing can match it in the gaming world.

Chapel wrote:
The warm embrace of a 12 hour adv. civ. megagame. Truthfully, nothing can match it in the gaming world.

Chapel is totally and utterly right.