Up Front 2013?

Ah, I see...facts are screwed up. Well, you know, it's been so long since I've really thought about all this. Like, 10 years or so...back when Up Front 2000 was two years late.

Remember the CCG talk? Wow.

Hey, at least it's not an LCG, amirite?

I'm glad I already own the game as there's no way that I would contribute to a Kickstarter project even if it was for a donkey that shat nuggets of gold.

For others though, I hope they'll include the Banzai expansion at one of the supporter levels.

Schweig! wrote: even if it was for a donkey that shat nuggets of gold.

I would definitely be in for this. Anyone else???

not.so.fast
boardgamegeek.com/thread/841553/has-vall...gone-out-of-business

The guy that did the redesign is invited to collaborate. Is that a good sign or smoke and mirrors? How legit is that comment about 300k debt? Seems like an awful lot of money for a small board game business, then again I don't know much about it.

Getting time on professional-grade printing and die-cutting equipment is crazy expensive, that's all I know.

luckyb0y wrote: The guy that did the redesign is invited to collaborate. Is that a good sign or smoke and mirrors? How legit is that comment about 300k debt? Seems like an awful lot of money for a small board game business, then again I don't know much about it.

I read the bit about being owed "$300k after legal expenses and other costs" as being a mostly ficticious number. If there are "legal costs" involved either there's a dispute about the original debt, which in itself will inflate the actual liability or a "worst case" damages number trotted out by the aggrieved poster. While it's a fairly substantial number, the fact that the guy trying to collect it is doing so by randomly inserting himself into threads on a boardgaming forum leads me to question exactly how "settled" that dispute actually is. Regardless of Valley's actual liabilities, it just seems like kind of a douchebag move, which thus leads me to question the validity of the claim.