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I gave it a good think over and I honestly think that Game of Thrones isn't the best TV series of all time, I think it may be The Sopranos. I don't know of any other show with such fleshed out characters as that one. Some famous TV host (I THINK it was that scottish guy, but I can't remember) said that he purposely avoided ever interviewing any actor that had ever been on the Sopranos (major characters only) cuz he didn't want to ruin it for himself.
So that being said, I think I'm going to make an attempt to rewatch The Sopranos while I'm here. It's probably 100 hours of television and I doubt I'll pull it off, but I've never actually seen all the episodes and I think it's a good idea to watch the whole thing at some point. So I watched Ep 1 of Season 1 last night and enjoyed it, ducks and all. I think I'll go through this over the next year and when I'm done, I'll probably finally get around to watching The Wire.
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Shield is a great show, not as good as Wire but more action packed. Some of the writing might not hold up, I'm not sure. But you get to see Walton Goggins.
The first couple of seasons of Sherlock are probably the best television I've ever seen.
Fargo is the best thing I've seen in recent years. All 3 seasons are good, but they get slightly worse as they go.
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Norsemen was funny in a Python-esque way, sometimes to the point of being too Holy Grail-ish with the juxtaposition of modern social quandaries in the age of Vikings.
If you like sports documentaries, Last Chance is a decent one to watch.
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Still love the show
Finished season one of Sopranos and loved it. On season two now. I havent seen much of this.
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Black Barney wrote: I loved Game of Thrones last night. One scene even got my eyes to well up. A show that evokes that kind of emotion just through dialogue is pretty good. Again, i'm really getting annoyed by the screenwriting for Jorah. "me too'', he keeps saying things that don't sound Westerosi at all or in character. I guess it's cuz Martin hasn't supplied dialogue from the books anymore so we're stuck with uneven screenwriting
Still love the show
Yeah, that episode was a lot of fun. I've read some criticism that the show's logic doesn't make sense. Like, the fact that Gendry ran back to the Wall, they dispatched a raven to Dragonstone, and Daenrys arrived at the frozen lake ... all in the span of, what, maybe a day or two?? Eh, in retrospect, I guess that is hard to buy. But in the moment of watching the show, I didn't much care about any of that. This show continues to deliver fantasy spectacle unlike anything ever seen on TV.
I will say that the Arya / Sansa stuff is just all so very dumb. It reminds me a bit of watching Lost, when I would get so frustrated with characters who simply wouldn't ask questions, and share information. To think that Arya and Sansa (and Bran!) wouldn't have a big sit-down and describe all the things they've seen and done since they last saw each other ... it's nonsense. Real people don't act like that. Instead, we get these cryptic non-answers, and muddled conversations where people talk in circles, and it's maddening.
I also started watching The Defenders. I've watched three episodes so far. The two first episodes were a boring slog of exposition, but things starting cooking in the third one. Danny Rand continues to be the worst character, and the worst casting decision in all of the MCU.
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Joe, i'm so happy to hear you say that about Arya/Sansa. Those scenes were TERRIBLE. I'm sitting on the recliner, gritting my teeth thinking, "i can't wait to complain about this on F:AT". You're totally right, why haven't they just catched up yet? Neither has any empathy for the other which is nuts. I bet Martin would never have come up with something as shallow as Littlefinger leading Arya to finding a message Sansa wrote under duress. It's just not strong enough of a plot point and is VERY weak. But these screenwriters seem desperate.
Everything north of the wall was excellent. i was actually ok with the time lapse because I think it was supposed to be obvious that the stand off in the middle of the lake was VERY long. Like probably an entire day. The parts that don't add up is Gendry being in a full sprint for that long. He's been breathing fumes in swampbottom (or whatever it's called) for months. Also, why didn't they bring any horses north of the wall? Are they guaranteed to die?
Did you get hit by the emotion of the conversation between Jon and Dany in the second-to-last scene? It hit me like a freight train. i was surprised by how emotional the impact was.
i thought they did the death of the dragon really well because as soon as it died, I was thinking, "ah crap, they're going to reanimate it" but then it sinks below the frozen lake and I'm thinking, "ok cool, we won't have to worry about that" so when the final scene happens and you see the chains, i got taken completely by surprise.
Now... here's an important question about the fantasy. That undead bear thing that attacked them, that thing was just a wild animal right? It doesn't fight on the side of the dead or living, it's just a wild animal right? Otherwise, it would be marching as part of the army of the dead. Now, this is important, if that thing isn't tamed (and I don't believe it is), then the dragon should also be a wild animal and should NOT be fighting with the army of the dead, but I'm thinking it will be, which would be dumb. What do you think? Wouldn't it be the tits if somehow it is still drawn to Dany? And listens to her? That would be pretty neat.
I thought it was really lame how quickly they wrapped up Uncle Benjin. It felt like a quickly tied-up loose end. And I think we're done for people sinking in the water and we're supposed to assume they are dead. They've done that schitck two episodes in a row! What the heck?
most of the men that went north of the wall died but I thought most of those were real characters. Who besides the fire priest died up there? The guy that fell who Jon couldn't save, was that someone important? I can't remember who went North beside Jon, Gendry, Hound, fire priest and the guy with 9 lives.
still love the show
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Joe, i'm so happy to hear you say that about Arya/Sansa. Those scenes were TERRIBLE. I'm sitting on the recliner, gritting my teeth thinking, "i can't wait to complain about this on F:AT". You're totally right, why haven't they just catched up yet? Neither has any empathy for the other which is nuts. I bet Martin would never have come up with something as shallow as Littlefinger leading Arya to finding a message Sansa wrote under duress. It's just not strong enough of a plot point and is VERY weak. But these screenwriters seem desperate.
I think you're right that the whole Sansa / Arya / Littlefinger conflict is something the screenwriters cooked up, simply because they needed SOMETHING for those characters to do. Winterfell is totally isolated from the main action, and there's really nothing going on there.
At this point, Arya is acting so out of character, I'm half-expecting her to be revealed as the Faceless Man priest in disguise. Of course, we'll never know for sure if this was Martin's idea, or the screenwriters' idea, until Martin actually publishes another fucking book, but I'm no longer holding my breath for that.
The Jon and Dany scene near the end was good. Their obvious growing attraction is SUPER awkward, given that we the audience know that they're aunt/nephew, even though the characters don't know that. That's a curious story decision.
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In terms of characters -- it was Jon, Tormund, Jorah, Gendry, Thoros (red priest), Beric, the Hound, and 4 or 5 redshirts. All the redshirts died (of course) and Thoros. The other six named characters all survived. I expected Tormund and maybe Gendry to both die as well.
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shouldn't they have developed one or two of the redshirts just a BIT so we could feel that loss. Instead it's like a stupid original series episode of Star Trek.
Is Beric the same actor from Season 1 that Ned sends out to give the King's justice to the Mountain? They look totally different.
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i'll be sure to use spoiler tags for anything material, no worries.
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