Eurogames evangelism?

TheDukester wrote: You guys are wasting your time getting worked up about this. Your time is more valuable than this.

I don't think anyone is worked up. Certainly not as worked up as a certain someone who took gentle ribbing to be lecture on "something he's spend a quarter century doing".

(NOTE EMOTICON THIS TIME, DUKE.)

Guys, it's the Internet. Everyone's an expert.

wice wrote: Anyone who thinks that Quinns is a "Euro-guy" obviously didn't see a single episode of SU&SD.

This is why i was surprised when i read it, because i've heard him bash multiplayer solitare before and hes promoted many AT games.

IMO either he on a come down after too much FFG (all the games he sidelines are FFG i think), or hes recently become a Feld fan and has decided that all his old ways were a waste of time, or its Kotaku and so he has to up the ante.

SuperflyTNT wrote: I don't think anyone is worked up.

You're reading different posts than I am, then.

Not that I'm above such emotions myself. One reason I'm avoiding the article altogether is that it would probably make my blood pressure rise at least a little. I loathe Gawker and it's lowest-common-denominator formula.

Anyone who thinks that Quinns is a "Euro-guy" obviously didn't see a single episode of SU&SD.

I'd second that. It looks like his tastes are pretty much all over the map. I'd chalk the whole article up to a failed humor attempt, as opposed to Eurosnobbery.

This is why the internet is stupid and will never catch on.

jeb wrote: 1) the Fort is third on Google for "ameritrash" and 2) the named link to it is "Fortress: Front Page." I know we're not exactly obsessed with SEO here, but this could be tuned a little.

I believe we were intentionally de-tuned because we were drawing a particular crowd that wasn't at all interested in games.

I need Lent to end because Pete's posts are looking awfully well-reasoned these days.

S.

jeb wrote: Guys, it's the Internet. Everyone's an expert.

Correction:

Guy's it's the Internet. I'm an expert. The rest of you are mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, asshats.

Also, any fool who lauds Blargin fon Bluggleblat as anything other than the epitome of all that is wrong in the world needs to be severely reprimanded.

jeb wrote: The most upsetting things about this article for me was finding out that 1) the Fort is third on Google for "ameritrash" and 2) the named link to it is "Fortress: Front Page." I know we're not exactly obsessed with SEO here, but this could be tuned a little.

I've added references to Fortress: Ameritrash to both the first and second search results on Google.

I like the article. It's easy to read.

I think it's pretty weird though that in his attempt to prove that X genre is de-facto better than Y genre he writes in a style that AT commentators have been using for years. Not the typical shit pseudo intellectual style that Euro commentators normally use. Part of why even though I find the article easy to read I still completely disagree with it. The guy doesn't even totally seem to believe what he's saying and then he give Chaos in the Old World as an example of an Ameritrash game? Doesn't really make a lot of sense.

I completely believe that game quality is NOT subjective. Some games are just plain old better than others, suck it up buttercup. However to say one whole genre is better than another is ridiculous. What better, Country, Blues, Metal, Jazz, or Hip-Hop.. ya see? It's just a stupid question with no real answer. Inside those genre's you can start finding some objectivity and make sense of things. Backstreet Boys are objectively bad, but the notion of five or whatever number of guys singing together,,, even sappy love songs... isn't necessarily bad.

So while I enjoy his AT style metaphors and his confidence in his opinion... he's just wrong and should look at things on a game by game basis. It's also a very old news kind of article with nothing to say to me that I haven't heard before. I just found his writing easy to get through... that alone is rare in this field so I'll cut him some slack by over mentioning it.