The Walking Dead - Season 4

Black Barney wrote: I thought it was obvious that the Bob thing was a flashback. For me, anyway.

Okay Barney, you're smarter than us. We get it.

Or maybe we don't? Because, you know, we're dumb.

What tipped me off (other than getting to the end and having it not make sense), was going back and seeing how Daryl's hair was shorter. Weird way to confirm it, but there ya go.

Ska_baron wrote: What tipped me off (other than getting to the end and having it not make sense), was going back and seeing how Daryl's hair was shorter. Weird way to confirm it, but there ya go.

That and the fact that Glenn and Daryl rolled up on Bob as if he was a stranger. Neither made any mention of the prison or how he got out, etc. To cap it off they asked him Rick's quiz and that's something we haven't seen them do in some time now.

Just what the hell is up with Bob? Dude gives me the creeps but after the last episode I am starting to think he may be on the level.

Daryl on the motorcycle is what made it obvious for me.

It would be much cooler if it was forward-looking though, knowing that he's going to kill someone. Wasted opportunity

I agree Barney. I was tense watching him go through the motions of survival at the beginning, thinking Sasha and Maggie got separated or killed. Then we find out it was a flash back? WTH? What was the point of that? To learn Bob has a drinking problem and can't keep with a group? We already knew those points so I have no idea why they decided to give us a confusing flashback.

the_jake_1973 wrote: The scientist/doctor guy is probably just a podiatrist looking to get a free ride somewhere. I smell a scam.

No kidding. Why has no one asked that guy any follow up questions? If I ran across other survivors that claimed to have a cure I would be VERY interested in learning more details. At least something more than "Hey, we're headed to D.C. Want to help out?"

Oops. Feeling stupid. I didn't remember much of bob from the prison. Now it makes sense.

But the mistake made the ep more exciting than it should have been

Thanks for the clarity

I think the opening Bob scene is meant to be ambiguous at first. Make people wonder what happened to Maggie and Sasha (or will happen to them if it were a flash forward). Earlier in the season him and Darryl talked about how they originally found Bob just walking down the road. And later when Darryl was pissed he told him he should have kept on walking. So when Darryl and Glen came up on him then asked the three questions it became clear that it was a flashback. The scene was important because it showed Bob wasn't lying about not wanting to be alone again. It looked like he really hated it. The guy was a mystery who just showed up this season and I think this scene gave him some credibility that he previously lacked.

Holy fuck.


I'll have more to say after I sleep on it.

But seriously fucked up.

I slept on it and still not sure what to say.

Its been suspected by comic readers they were going to apply something from that to the little girls. In the comic it was two boys and one of them killed the other figuring he'd just come back. Then Carl (not Carol) took it upon himself to kill that boy since he didn't think any of the adults could bring themselves to do it. But yeah, pretty fucked up either way and very emotional to watch it play out.

I'm guessing the fire they saw was the cabin that Beth and Darryl burned. I'm glad Carol came clean to Tyreese and that he forgave her (I wouldn't have).

Wow, what a great episode. Very emotional for both me and my wife to watch.

MadDog, the only reason Tyreese was able to forgive Carol is because of what he just saw. Carol did something that really only Carol is capable of doing (it's funny you mention Carl does it in the comic since my wife said that she thinks Carl is the only other person that could have put down that sick sister). So because Tyreese watched Carol do it, I'm sure he experienced the pain of that act along with her and it allowed him to understand why she might have killed Karen. I think that's what that was. The fact that they walk away in total silence at the end was really deep and revealing of how much these two characters have changed. Really interesting characters for sure.

I was really sad about the little sister. I had just started to really like her for how innocent she was. You know that Carol saw lots of Sophia in her. She was so happy and giddy the entire episode that I was sure something bad was going to happen.

Did you catch that the older sister got cut off when she was about to say that she was going to kill Judith next? Just saying those words is probably too much for TV so they interrupted her from even suggesting it. But yeah, I figured either Carol was going to go off forever with that little girl and just live the two of them (she would take it upon herself to care for and protect her (mostly protecting others from her) or put her down. I think she made the right call. The little girl was lost and without any way of treating her in some sort of institution, there was no way they could just allow how to go meet up with some other group and kill people there too.

What a huge episode. Two really good ones back to back. Very sad. I really like both Carol and Tyreese.

Anyone else think that Carol was going to tell Tyreese after she shot the girl? I thought it was going to be slam-dunk, but then I had no idea what was going to happen. He'll either shoot her or no. I actually thought he was going to shoot her and say something like, "I made it quick too" and walk away with the baby.

Man, I don't know. I've been a bit bored with season 4 so far and this episode might have sealed the deal and not because children died. How stupid do you have to be to leave an underage child in charge of her younger sister and an infant after confirming she ain't right in the head? C'mon man! She was just playing a game of tag with a walker and you think it's cool to give her ANY responsibility? That kind of stupidity is unforgivable in the characters and the writers who thought that drek would fly.

She'd been left to watch he kids multiple times before and nothing happened. I don't think its stupid to not be able to even imagine she might do that. Perhaps bad judgement but not outright stupidity. Lizzy saved Tyreese's life and saved Judith during the prison attack.

Incidentally, Carol has now murdered three people including a child. That's two more than Lizzy.

No way, man. Treating walkers as pets is odd but forgivable, but when you start playing tag with them and going bat guano crazy because I kill it you are no longer in the sane column in my book. No way in hell is that girl watching my back or acting as a care provider for small children. Ever.

Good point, but Lizzy would have had opportunities to kill her sister even if they never left them alone. I don't think they could have prevented it without knowing she might do it.

The stupid part for me was Tyreese and/or Carol not having more than a one minute talk with her about the zombies as pets thing. Lizzy obviously didn't get how dangerous they were and that made her a danger to the whole group. She was crazy, but not stupid and I bet they could have found a way to prove to her that the walkers weren't still people.

Hershel used to round them up into his barn thinking they were still people deep down and got pissed at anyone even talking about killing one. He turned out to be okay.

That girl was messed up before the outbreak happened. Se needed to be put down like a rabid dog. Good on Carol for doing it. That was certainly the single most powerful episode in the series. I fear the rest of the season will be somewhat dull now.