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06 Mar 2015 01:08 #198925 by Sevej
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Seriously, what's so "pedo bullshit" about this...

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06 Mar 2015 03:48 #198928 by Erik Twice
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For all you guys complain about BGG, you are every bit as puritan as them.

I also love how having big breasts automatically makes the characters "whores". Totally progressive here guys ;)
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06 Mar 2015 04:47 #198929 by ThirstyMan
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Erik Twice wrote: For all you guys complain about BGG, you are every bit as puritan as them.

I also love how having big breasts automatically makes the characters "whores". Totally progressive here guys ;)


You are fucking joking right? You seriously think these images are nothing other than badly drawn females? You seriously think that this is not a deliberate distortion in order to pander to the 'young school girls' crowd? They are not offensive because they are big tits, you dick. They are offensive because of the manner the doe eyed characters are drawn with distorted tits, deliberately to over sexualise the image for the benefit of men who don't like to be seen as peados, but still like the edgy border that this exists on.

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06 Mar 2015 04:56 #198930 by daveroswell
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I would think the most attractive thing to most men in that one picture would be the six beers the chick is holding.
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06 Mar 2015 08:19 #198933 by Sevej
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ThirstyMan wrote:

Erik Twice wrote: For all you guys complain about BGG, you are every bit as puritan as them.

I also love how having big breasts automatically makes the characters "whores". Totally progressive here guys ;)


You are fucking joking right? You seriously think these images are nothing other than badly drawn females? You seriously think that this is not a deliberate distortion in order to pander to the 'young school girls' crowd? They are not offensive because they are big tits, you dick. They are offensive because of the manner the doe eyed characters are drawn with distorted tits, deliberately to over sexualise the image for the benefit of men who don't like to be seen as peados, but still like the edgy border that this exists on.


Nope, you're the dick. WTF is this with "doe eyed characters". They're just characters drawn that way. There are totally "proper" manga and anime in which fully grown up women drawn that way. There's nothing pedo about this. That's just how japan idolize things. That's just how manga is. Long legs, big tits, big eyes... these are fairly common distortions in manga.

Look, if you think the art incite some pedo-shit, that's on you. I grew surrounded with manga/anime throughout my life. Although I do not always like them, I can't avoid them since they're everywhere here in Indonesia. I'm sick of you shits who only watch posh anime (wheee, Miyazaki, wheee!) or never at all putting your own perspective on a culture you hardly understand.
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06 Mar 2015 08:26 #198934 by SuperflyPete
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I reiterate....best Friday Freakout ever.

I'm going back to fapping now.

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06 Mar 2015 09:24 #198941 by ThirstyMan
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So I need to be Japanese to understand the obsession with knicker sniffing? You're probably right, I do.

Far be it for me to criticise other cultures but I will do so unreservedly with the Japanese portrayal of women, child abuse and rape in comics. You really want to pull the race card to defend that shit? Where is the criticism from their own culture of this kind of representation of women or yours? I'm guessing there is some (I hope there is some) it's just that I haven't seen it.

Oh, they are 'common distortions in Manga', so that makes it all OK then and I'm an ignorant westerner who really doesn't understand a cultures obsession with this. I guess I'm allowed to criticise the West for their media representations but not the East because I'm just an ignoramus who doesn't understand the beauty of Manga. I've been surrounded by western porn all my life but at least I have the balls to criticise it and the media portrayal of women which is more than I can say for you. I can only apologise if my perspective on culture is to reject the sexualisation of young girls, ridiculous abuse in comics and the absurd portrayal of young women. Good luck with the defence of Hentai though

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06 Mar 2015 09:52 #198945 by SuperflyPete
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I'd argue that there's a big difference between the art on Karate Fight and the teen schoolgirl fetish that seems to be a national past-time. As Uba said, little girls don't have gigantic Godzillaboobies. I've been fighting this fight for a long time and it's unwinnable. Shellie and I had a conversation not too long ago about this kind of thing and I pointed out that these people are fucking MAD. Completely. I mean, they had to make a NEW law banning kiddie porn a half a decade back or so, but ANIME and MANGA was EXEMPTED. Seriously. There's something wrong with that.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/ma...d-abuse-9546990.html

The place literally has kiddie porn on street corners. They have used knicker vending machines (although this practice is almost gone). It's sickening, but the culture is changing.

Now with regard to THESE particular images, yes, they're pandering, smutty, and rather disgusting, but they're clearly not children. I'm more disgusted that someone would fap to this shite instead of some proper Vivid porn or something, but hey, differen't strokes for different folks and whatnot. I mean, how many dudes do you know that would love to be 45 and married to a 20 year old with DDD's? These chicks are probably that fantasy for them. I still say it's sick, but that's just my Western Catholic coming out. If you're going to fuck your fist in a dark room, at least have the decency to look up some proper 18yo porn.

Ugh.

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06 Mar 2015 10:33 - 06 Mar 2015 10:42 #198950 by Erik Twice
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ThirstyMan wrote: You seriously think these images are nothing other than badly drawn females?

That's exactly what I think! That they are poorly drawn girls with big (not "distorted", big) tits. That's all there is, man.

ThirstyMan wrote: Good luck with the defence of Hentai though

Geez dude,it's porn in comic form. It doesn't need to be defended any more than porn movies or porn books do.
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06 Mar 2015 11:00 - 06 Mar 2015 11:06 #198952 by SuperflyPete
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No, it's not porn in comic book form any more than the Swimsuit Issue of SI is. Hell, less so. Google "Cherry Pop Tart" and you'll see what comic porn is, and how much this is NOT that. www.si.com/swimsuit/2015/

I'm serious - you don't get much more "conservative" than I do when it comes to shit like this, and I'm looking at Andy and some of you like "So, did it hurt when the Mayflower crashed? Did you fall off?" Fuck sakes, folks. This is much ado about nothing. This is a stupid game with shit faux-manga big boobie bitches that hopes that enough gamers who won't commit to REAL porn, but that would masturbate to these cards, would buy it.

Yes, it's salacious and stupid. No, it's not that offensive. It's just stupid, and lame, and pandery, and sad in every possible way. But it's not that offensive, and it's not something that should be BANNED FROM F:AT. If this is AS offensive as Steve Weeks, then yes, maybe. But as we all know, there's very few things that are as offensive as Steve Weeks, (such as scheister porn, "Space Docking" (don't use Urban Dictionary to look that up, I implore you..Lee got me with it, and I'll never sleep the same), or perhaps ISIS.
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06 Mar 2015 11:10 - 06 Mar 2015 11:33 #198954 by Sagrilarus
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. . . became . . .




. . . after people contacted the publisher. So don't rule out your voice having some weight. Perhaps not the height of artistic class, but at least you don't need to convince your wife that you're safe to drop your daughter off at the girl scout meeting.

I'll say it again, I want another rating added to my TV-Guide, so that the choices include a "Weird Japanese Shit" category. It's no wonder no one is marrying and having kids over there.

By the way, the same conversation two years back -- fortressat.com/forum/10-ameritrash/15639...imit=10&limitstart=0
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06 Mar 2015 11:16 #198957 by Michael Barnes
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I love seeing people try to defend hentai and all of this VERY thinly veiled pedophilic material...look, if you like to look at highly sexualized drawings of girls with childlike (even babylike) faces, dressed up in outfits that are sexed-up versions of styles worn by young girls...then you have pedophilic tendencies. End of story. Just admit it.

Likewise, if you draw, sell or otherwise are involved in the creation and marketing of this kind of material, you are aiding and abetting pedophiles even if you are not one yourself. Don't give me the "it's just drawings, nobody is being hurt by it" bullshit or that it's "safe fantasy" or whatever. And don't tell me that these are "university students" when the reality is that you are trying to avoid controversy by not coming out and stating that they are high school girls. It's like how in Germany they used to call pornographic films "hygiene" films.

I don't give a pickled shit if it's a different culture. Not all cultures are progressive, positive, right, beautiful, etc. This is one aspect of Japanese culture that is despicable. What's more, it's even more despicable that in the west it's become a way to excuse and condone pedophilic and borderline pornographic material- "it's just anime/manga".

Where the culture DOES come into play is how Americans in particular see animated or comic characters and immediately think "that's for kids". That shuts off a lot of people's ability to see these kinds of drawings and think "hey wait- this is actually for adult men that want to look at images of sexualized children with exaggerated adult features". And I think that's one of the only reasons why lawmakers and other entities in the US in particular have never taken this stuff seriously as a source of pedo smut.

Plus it is still very marginal, you don't see it in the mainstream. The anime/manga that gets popular here tends to NOT be this kind of stuff. So it's very under the radar.

There is nothing wrong with sexy...when we're talking about adults.

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06 Mar 2015 11:44 - 06 Mar 2015 11:49 #198958 by Sevej
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That's total bullshit. Now we're into Hentai et al? You should be thankful I have the decency not to show you what REAL hentai looks like just to spite you and proof my point.

Fuck you.

They're adults. Just because you Caucasian get to look older faster than us Asian, don't think they're kids because YOU think so. You're putting your own standards of looking as an adult.

I dare you, add my Facebook page, look at my wife's picture, and see if she looks her age by YOUR standards. So now I'm a pedo for marrying her? No, fuck you.

There are pedo-stuff. There are thinly veiled pedo-stuff.

To call this one either of the above is a stretch. It's just badly drawn anime-style image. Nothing of the pedo shit. It's on YOU guys. It's a shame that your hate toward anime/manga has to stop your exploration on the art style.

And just to show you fucking shits you know nothing about the culture surrounding anime lolicon, below I'm showing you something REAL pedo would go after.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/t...x-Lolicon_Sample.png

Not those big boobs shit. You don't get it they dont want BIG BOOBS. That's CULTURE. I'm not defending THEIR culture. But you're talking about a whole DIFFERENT viewpoint.

Shit. Stupid know it all fucks.
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06 Mar 2015 11:48 #198959 by Shellhead
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The age of consent is 13 in Japan. I'm personally not comfortable with that, I think that is way too young. But I just wanted to point out that the laws are different in Japan. I agree Barnes that not all cultural differences are right, and I don't respect the Japanese for having such a low age of consent.

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06 Mar 2015 11:49 - 06 Mar 2015 11:49 #198960 by SuperflyPete
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All that Incursion change did was tell Jim Bailey that gamers are more "ass men" then "boob men".

Based on this thread, I think we should change the F:AT logo to something resembling this:
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