Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower

The list of monster simply doesn't excite me... I think that's why I never complain about Terinoth generic-ness. I want the best version of something familiar to me instead of something new/unique/innovative.

Michael Barnes wrote: You can order in singles, however we do recommend that you order Warhammer Quest in quantities of 5, to ensure your orders arrive in a good condition.


Ha ha! Is this for real? Oh no, I had six preorders...I guess I'd better order ten games so they aren't damaged!

Oh, Games Workshop...

Sales rep #1: That's a real nice order of six games you got there, Mr. Barnes. It'd be a shame if something.......untoward.....happened to them.
Sales rep #2: <simpering henchman voice> Yeah, Boss......a reeeal shame.

Does anyone want to buy a gently used copy of Ravenloft and Ashardalon, with painted miniatures?

Mr. White wrote: I particularly like the commentary on how clean and clear the older GW models are vs the new. Sure these new AoS and 40K figs have amazing detail...but from my chair...it's too much detail. They don't look fun to paint. At. All.

Seriously, I've about had it with painting miniatures. It's too much work. So, what I started doing was blackwashing them.
www.how-to-paint-miniatures.com/miniatur...nting_blackwash.html

The result looks way better than stock, and it takes about 5 minutes per miniature, if that.

I still love to paint minis, but I want to spend .5-1.5 per mini tops. Anything beyond that and the fun is gone.

I do something similar to that blackwashing.
1) prime with grey auto/house primer
2) paint base colors
3) wash mini with gw washes (usually black on the whole thing, but I may do a sepia, blue, green, etc over flesh depending on the creature)
4) go back over the raised bits of the mini with the same base colors except leaving a little space between colors where the black shows. This gives the shading effect or an effect close to blacklining.

So basically: base color, wash, base color again. Very simple. Looks great. You can see some recent results with this technique here: fortressat.com/forum/20-table-top-miniat...ve-blood-bowl#225852

Anyway, back to this Warhammer Quest thing. The other issue with all these detailed figs is that they are _not_ new player/painter friendly. Sure they showcase the capabilities of GW's plastics, but is that the point of their boardgames? To showcase? I'd figure they'd want to get this in the hands of players and hopefully bring in new ones. However, I'd concede that I'm worrying about something that may not be a factor...I'll guess most of all these mini heavy games (regardless of company) go unpainted rather than get painted...

Yes, they are so detailed, and their painters are so amazingly talented. Foolish people have that in their minds, and speaking for myself, my skills are nowhere near that and never will be. Most of my paint jobs look like they were done while straight-jacketed.

Has there been any guesses as to what the price of this is going to be? My gut is telling me this is gonna be a $200 game. I'm very interested in this, but I'm still waiting for that sticker shock. I mean I need another dungeon crawl like I need an ice pick in my temple, but sweet baby shit...it's Warhammer Quest!

hotseatgames wrote: Yes, they are so detailed, and their painters are so amazingly talented. Foolish people have that in their minds, and speaking for myself, my skills are nowhere near that and never will be. Most of my paint jobs look like they were done while straight-jacketed.

I will agree with this assessment. Rather - the one about Mark's painting skills.

Mr. White wrote: I still love to paint minis, but I want to spend .5-1.5 per mini tops. Anything beyond that and the fun is gone.

I do something similar to that blackwashing.
1) prime with grey auto/house primer
2) paint base colors
3) wash mini with gw washes (usually black on the whole thing, but I may do a sepia, blue, green, etc over flesh depending on the creature)
4) go back over the raised bits of the mini with the same base colors except leaving a little space between colors where the black shows. This gives the shading effect or an effect close to blacklining.

So basically: base color, wash, base color again. Very simple. Looks great. You can see some recent results with this technique here: fortressat.com/forum/20-table-top-miniat...ve-blood-bowl#225852

Anyway, back to this Warhammer Quest thing. The other issue with all these detailed figs is that they are _not_ new player/painter friendly. Sure they showcase the capabilities of GW's plastics, but is that the point of their boardgames? To showcase? I'd figure they'd want to get this in the hands of players and hopefully bring in new ones. However, I'd concede that I'm worrying about something that may not be a factor...I'll guess most of all these mini heavy games (regardless of company) go unpainted rather than get painted...

It's not even fair a little bit that you can paint that well at 2 mins a miniature.

Holy shit

SuperflyTNT wrote:

Mr. White wrote: I still love to paint minis, but I want to spend .5-1.5 per mini tops. Anything beyond that and the fun is gone.

I do something similar to that blackwashing.
1) prime with grey auto/house primer
2) paint base colors
3) wash mini with gw washes (usually black on the whole thing, but I may do a sepia, blue, green, etc over flesh depending on the creature)
4) go back over the raised bits of the mini with the same base colors except leaving a little space between colors where the black shows. This gives the shading effect or an effect close to blacklining.

So basically: base color, wash, base color again. Very simple. Looks great. You can see some recent results with this technique here: fortressat.com/forum/20-table-top-miniat...ve-blood-bowl#225852

Anyway, back to this Warhammer Quest thing. The other issue with all these detailed figs is that they are _not_ new player/painter friendly. Sure they showcase the capabilities of GW's plastics, but is that the point of their boardgames? To showcase? I'd figure they'd want to get this in the hands of players and hopefully bring in new ones. However, I'd concede that I'm worrying about something that may not be a factor...I'll guess most of all these mini heavy games (regardless of company) go unpainted rather than get painted...

It's not even fair a little bit that you can paint that well at 2 mins a miniature.

Holy shit

Hahahaha...huge omission in my post. That's .5-1.5 _hours_...not _minutes_!

Sorry about that, hoss. If I flipped them out at that rate, I'd go into painting figs as a side hustle.

More rumors:

* 125 Euros
* Desired to be the core of a new line - That is viewed as important as 40k or AoS. (take this one with a grain of salt)
* Forthcoming App to provide WQ stats for any AoS hero. (I'll also take this to mean _some_)

That's almost $150! No one will ever pay that much for a board game!

You guys are cute. Here's the deal with miniatures. Sure, some may have lots of details. But for me that actually *makes* it easier to paint. When I painted Talisman miniatures, oh how I wish they have enough details to catch my sloppy brushwork. There are ways to get good result fast, but *only* if your minis have the details.

Generally it takes me a weekend (and that's between taking care of a toddler, accompanying my wife watching movies, housework etc!) to finish a set of miniatures. Effective time 3 hours top. A set would mean 5-men tabletop minis, a faction of runewars, etc...




Method's similar to Mr. White, but with localized washes, and I don't bother with painting the original colors, just straight to highlight to make them pop more.

I think we're confusing 'casting quality' with 'details'.

By details, I mean all the assorted crap expertly sculpted onto or with the mini. Like that Heroquest video comparing the dead simple, but obvious gargoyle, and...whatever that other creature was. Or the two elves in this Silver Tower set...I _still_ can't really make them out. Too busy with too much crap going on.

Casting quality is how crisp the models are off the mold. GW is famous for having outstanding plastic casting. Which is why even their 90s games like Space Hulk, Blood Bowl, Warhammer Quest, etc may have had minis on the lower end of details, but are super sharp to paint because the well cast minis have strongly defined lines to catch the paint and what not. FFG Talisman, on the other hand, is very poorly casted so it all sort of runs together.

Either way, I prefer well casted mini, but can do without all the extra details...it's more crap on the mini to paint. Space Hulk 2nd edition? Fun! 3rd? A chore.
(and I've done both)

EDIT: Please share more about your technique. Those minis look awesome.

Some better images of the heroes...and I still can't make out the elves...













Damn, you'd think I'm a GW rep with all this reposting. I'll say I'm getting a bit more intrigued. Looks like one of the upsides of AoS is that being removed from any sort of 'Old Europe' we'll hopefully get more variety of ethnicities. Looks like GW is headed that way. Good on them.